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Italy’s birth rate, already one of the lowest in the world, has been falling steadily for about 15 years and reached a record low last year.

Pope Francis is stepping up his campaign to urge Italians to have children, calling for long-term policies to help families and warning that the country’s demographic crisis was threatening the future.

“The number of births is the first indicator of the hope of a people,” Francis told an annual gathering of pro-family groups on Friday.

“Without children and young people, a country loses its desire for the future.”

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[-] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

You go first.

[-] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago

Why not give people actual hope for the future if that's the problem?

[-] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago

“Without children and young people, a country loses its desire for the future.”

Bout 30 years too late for that, old man. I grew up with that hopelessness. Between the climate and the economy, the damage is done. Gonna need more than a tax break to change course.

But hey, it's nice to see that he's not completely oblivious.

[-] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago

Have the offering plates been a little light lately? Tithes not keeping up with the profit margins?

It's rich that one of the wealthiest organizations in the world is telling tax-payer funded governments to loosen the purse strings.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

Fuck that! Too many people on this world! All this infinite growth bullshit is crazy! We need to be downsizing everything.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Smettila di usare i preservativi amici italiani

[-] [email protected] 26 points 1 month ago

Why? Are they running low on choices to diddle?

[-] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago

Catholicism is a cancer on humanity

[-] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago
[-] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

Yes the lot of em

[-] [email protected] 43 points 1 month ago

"Man who covers up the rape of children by his peers asks the public to have more children."

Everyone sees how crazy this is, right? Right??

[-] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

Whatever, Mugatu.

[-] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago

Fuck the environment. Lets get to 10 billion because hope or some shit.

[-] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago

Without knowing of the Roman Empire, you'd be confused as hell on how Christianity ended up in Italy's hands. Abrahamic religions are one of our sloppiest punchlines.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Christians are so poor they can only afford one god

[-] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago

Says the person who has sworn to never have babies.

[-] [email protected] 47 points 1 month ago

“The number of births is the first indicator of the hope of a people,” Francis told an annual gathering of pro-family groups on Friday.

Hope comes first, births comes second.

You can't fake an indicator and hope for the situation to improve.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago
[-] [email protected] 27 points 1 month ago

The priests are complaining the dating pool is shrinking.

[-] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago

pope needs to be the change he wants to see in the world.

[-] [email protected] 24 points 1 month ago

Dating pool shrinking, Pontiff?

[-] [email protected] 27 points 1 month ago

They got entire families coming from both the south and the east. 🇿🇦🇵🇸

LET THEM IN.

[-] [email protected] 29 points 1 month ago

no no no not that kind of babies

[-] [email protected] 122 points 1 month ago

Without a future or desire to live, why would we have kids? Why are we listening to an 80 year old male virgin in a dress who represents a fairy tale and participated in covering up the rapes of children around the world?

[-] [email protected] 82 points 1 month ago

Lol. Will the church spend even a tiny fraction of its wealth to help families? No? Didn’t think so. Get fucked🖕

[-] [email protected] 42 points 1 month ago

You expect the successor to the most humble dude in history to not carry a gold staff? Sounds like heresy.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

the most humble dude in history

What does Mr. Rogers have to do with this?

[-] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Dunno if I'd call the guy who says he's a literal god the most humble dude in history.

Of course it's questionable if he did indeed make that claim (if he even really existed), but the Pope certainly believes that he did.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Jesus almost certainly existed, Tacitus refers to his cult and execution and he was not a fan of the weirdo Jewish cannibal cult or their growing popularity in Rome.

Everything else is a bit more in question.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Tacitus refers to Christians, which doesn't necessarily mean that Jesus existed if he was an amalgamation of various apocalyptic prophets; there were many mystery cults at the time who had a legendary founder.

I think the chances are pretty good that he did exist, but it's not a foregone conclusion.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Tacitus explicitly refers to a "Christus" crucified by Pilate and the cult followers he gave his name to, "Chrestianos," distinct but related to Judaism. If there is a problem with citing him as proof of Jesus's historical reality it's that he doesn't tell us where he heard about "Christus," and might just be reporting the claims of the cult without having bothered to see if Prefect Pilate actually executed a random Hebrew cult leader for treason.

Of course, by the time Tacitus wrote he might just not have bothered, rebelling against Rome and getting executed for it is just kind of what Hebrews did at the time.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

I thought that Tacitus was debunked, no?

[-] [email protected] 35 points 1 month ago

Why? Do they need a new generation of kids to molest?

[-] [email protected] 46 points 1 month ago

The number of births is the first indicator of the hope of a people

Niger must be overflowing with hope!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_total_fertility_rate

[-] [email protected] 23 points 1 month ago

And even if his statement were correct, he's got the cause and effect completely backwards.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Pope Francis is stepping up his campaign to urge Italians to have children, calling for long-term policies to help families and warning that the country’s demographic crisis was threatening the future.

With the Vatican’s strong backing, the right-wing government led by Giorgia Meloni has mounted a campaign to encourage at least 500,000 births annually by 2033, reaching a rate that experts say is necessary to prevent the economy from collapsing under the weight of an ageing population.

Francis called for long-term political strategies and policies to encourage couples to have children, including an end to precarious work contracts and impediments to buying homes, as well as ensuring that women aren't forced have to choose between motherhood and a career.

“The problem of our world is not children being born: it is selfishness, consumerism and individualism which make people sated, lonely and unhappy," Francis said.

Francis is expected to continue emphasising demographics during the upcoming 2025 Holy Year, which will feature hope as its main theme.

In a Jubilee decree issued on Thursday, Francis called for a new social covenant among Christians to encourage couples to be open to having children.


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