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It's for my mother, who so far cannot stand LibreOffice.

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[–] [email protected] 104 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (15 children)

While I personally love LibreOffice, I get why your mom might not. It's super easy:

  1. Download and install Office
  2. run irm https://massgrave.dev/get | iex in Powershell and follow the instructions
  3. Profit!

What doesn't she like about LibreOffice, out of curiosity? It's easy to make the layout like Office (View > User Interface > Tabbed) if that's her problem - I felt the exact same way, but the second I found out I could do that, I never went back.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

Are you able to run it through wine?

[–] [email protected] 32 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (6 children)

@Reverendender

OnlyOffice Desktop Editors...

Simpler interface but lacking more advanced features of MS Office or Libre. It has the features 90% of users actually use though.

Nearly perfect DOCX formatting compatibility. The only thing I have ever noticed when collaborating with Word users is the bullet symbols on list items may be different on my end.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (7 children)

i don't want to start a war but sorry, office is the defacto when it comes to office work and libreoffice still have many problems with formatting and editing existing .docx files (things seem better when it comes to .xlsx and .pptx) not to mention that your documents might not look similar on both due to missing proprietary fonts.

its a good software in itself its just that its compatibility with office is a little dodgy

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

This really depends on what she’s using it for. If she’s going to use it for anything business related, she needs a legal copy. That includes her sitting down to write the next great American novel or Sookie Stackhouse series. If she’s just needs to open recipes someone else sends her, not a problem at all.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

How are people installing it on Linux these days? Arch specifically.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

I've been using it in a windows VM. Unfortunately for my work, I need the formatting of Excel and Word to be legit that I can't for the life of me seem to replicate in Only or Libre. That and PDF rendering always gets a little wonky somehow.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

i came across a guide on rentry that said how to permanently activate office 365 downloading from official microsoft servers

don't have the link

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

Massgrave.dev

[–] [email protected] 19 points 6 months ago (2 children)

u can download OFFICE official ISO fom microsoft directly and use MASS to activate just take like 5 mins downloading, installing and activating.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago

and you can be sure that it's clean

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Why not just change to the other kind of header bar -- Notebook or what not.

I'd say no because at least LibreOffice won't change for no reason every few years.

Also, fuck Microsoft & their products & Adobe too. They can get lost and we shouldn't prop them up as defacto when other options exist.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago

If you must have MS office, then I'd go with MAS/Massgrave like others have said.

It's well documented, requires minimal setup (if going default route), and is much less risky than going into the grey market for keys or downloading cracks elsewhere.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Why not try out onlyoffice? The interface is almost exactly the same, and you get free cloud storage

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (2 children)

key resellers have office 2021 pro plus (the non subscription one) for $30.00ish (earlier versions are even cheaper) and that is what I recommend if you absolutely have to get office.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago

imho between the two options, the more ethical is to pirate rather than supporting a shady key reseller. Anyway microsoft gets the exact same amount of money either if you purchase a stolen key from msdn or you install a pirated copy activated via mas

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Considering the grey market is filled with dodgy keys, it'd be better to just pirate, especially when there are easy and safe ways to do it like with MAS

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I've bought gray market keys for years without an issue. Also, good key sellers have money back guarantees

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Word, Excel, and PowerPoint are free to use with the web interface.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

There is some functionality not available through the web apps. If you work in a corporate setting, the odds are really good that the web apps won't be adequate for you.

One example that comes to mind is one of our clients that has us file a report once per quarter. The report is an Excel spreadsheet that can be filled but not edited. The submission demands that the file be then password edit protected and uploaded along with the password. You cannot secure files that way via the web app. We literally keep a Windows VM with the a copy of the desktop office suite, just for this client's quarterly form.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

Oh, I totally agree, but for this situation where it appears to be for personal use, the Office Online applications would probably do just fine.

[–] [email protected] 57 points 6 months ago (1 children)

You could tell your mom the real price of MS office. She might suddenly stand LibreOffice just fine.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 6 months ago (1 children)

i'm always amused by the reaction of my friends when i tell them that office costs $10 per month. They are all always "whaaaaat?? This POS is this expensive??"

[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 months ago

Screw word. I'm studying Software Development, but I have to write all these management reports for various classes. I'm just writing them in LaTeX now, so it feels like I'm coding while I'm writing a paper. Implement some new fancy features every time that I than have to debug like I do with code.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 months ago

At this point I think it's more beneficial for you to move to using LibreOffice. It's a better to spend your time getting used to that, instead of trying to obtain MS Office.

I'm not saying that LibreOffice is as good, but it's good enough.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 6 months ago (1 children)

You can change libreoffice to have the ribbon and act more like ms office.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 28 points 6 months ago

View -> User Interface, change to Tabbed or Tabbed Compact (or Notebookbar in old versions).

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

why not directly type diskpart clean in an admin command line, at least the computer wouldn't be infected with chinese malware

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Wait this seems pretty clean. How does it compare to LibreOffice?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

It's fast, lightweight and clean. Compatibility to office docs is also very good, it even repaired a big excel file which MS Excel broke and wasn't able to recover.

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