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[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

I still have never seen whatever the newest version of xbox is called in the stores. I've seen PS5's now and then, but still never even seen an xbox to buy.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 6 months ago (10 children)

I still believe their naming conventions has destroyed the brand.

Grandma that wants to buy a toy for their kids can go to the store and buy the next PlayStation. Xbox… which one do they buy? They don’t, they buy the easy option.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

What you didn’t like the meme name Xbox Series X? Xbox SeX?

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago (5 children)

I personally would by a ps6 in a heartbeat, and likely the switch 2. I've bought an Xbox one which I sold after the dust on it got too much, and a series x whoch also never gets turned on. 2 gen burns in a row is enough for me to exclude it from my console purchase next gen.

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[–] [email protected] 77 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Meanwhile the Steam Deck is selling like gangbusters.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I didn't see that coming, and it's a welcome development. If it warps the general PC hardware market enough that devs start optimizing for a standard platform, it'll result in less buggy products at launch. And maybe orienting development towards a relatively underpowered platform will make it easier for those of us ~~dumb enough to~~ that like to spend more on a desktop to hit those 60 FPS targets.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago

how i personally see it is that it welcomes devs to set a new minimum pc requirement to target. due to valve not doing contstent iterations (which imo is actually a good thing), it gives people a point of performance comparison reference to when wanting to play a new title.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I think it's more important that it gives Valve a method of avoiding being shoehorned into a "Windows only world". The Steam Deck is largely why Linux has pushed past 2% market share on the Steam Hardware Survey consistently now. Holo, which is the codename for SteamOS on the Deck, makes up over half of Steam on Linux.

Don't get me wrong. I'm not dillusional. Windows is still far and away the majority platform and will be for some time. However, there is a real, functional choice now that didn't exist a few years ago.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago (13 children)

Too bad Valve is not incentivizing native Linux ports.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Chicken and Egg. Linux is barely above 2%. When it breaks 10-20% market share, I expect companies will start making native ports more common.

The fact that proton/dxvk/vulkan/wine let's things just work with little to no changes is already pretty incredible.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Chicken egg problem is exactly why incentivizing (which is not the same as mandating) would make sense.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

When Xcloud eventually (promises, promises, Phil) gets purchased games access, there'll be no need for the console anymore. Hell, PC gamers could (in theory, anyway) play GTA VI by buying the Xbox version and playing it on Xcloud (again, if purchased games comes to it, it's been promised for years).

[–] [email protected] 24 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I have no interest in my gaming experience being at the mercy of network latency. It's bad enough for online games, but there's no getting around that other than physically going to the same location as everyone else you are playing with. Big no for single player games. If cloud gaming does replace locally computed gaming, it will be another case of enshitification.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I have a buddy with a catering gig who works on film sets all over, an RV trailer with kitchen and a tv and Xbox in the back that we’d fire up in between meal times. No wifi when you’re filming a snowboarding video in the mountains …if they force that into every game then him and people like him will just stop buying new games altogether.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago

So… stadia?

[–] [email protected] 17 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I'm biased but I really think Nintendo might be the last one standing in the system market in 2/3 gens

[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 months ago

Goes to show what a few good IPs and an all-star legal team can do for you lol

[–] [email protected] 31 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I think PlayStation will still be around for the more high end games since Nintendo consoles are usually underpowered. And exclusive games

[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I also can't imagine Nintendo's next console not being a mobile one so I think there's definitely a market for a traditional stationary console.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Well, they've already announce that they're just doing a slightly upgraded switch for their next console

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[–] [email protected] 54 points 6 months ago (1 children)

They're just tanking so they can get a high draft pick next year.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 6 months ago (1 children)

They should be careful, tank too much and they’ll be relegated to the championship

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Someone at Microsoft thinks they can sell the expensive razor blades without selling razors. Probably why they purchased Activision.

It’s a shame because Microsoft made some interesting hardware for a while.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Wow a 30% drop in revenue is quite something.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 6 months ago (2 children)

It's pretty late in its life, could be that anyone who would be a potential sale got one at this point? I remember that being, at the time, the reason for the sharp decline in Ocarina of Time sales in Japan, they effectively sold one to everyone who has an N64 so they "maxed out".

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (3 children)

According this chart from Ars Technica the switch and ps5 were still growing during the same period so then the question would be why the number of Xbox potential buyers is so much smaller than the others.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

Any new purchasers (I am one) are also probably waiting for the mid-generation update coming later this year.

[–] [email protected] 48 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I am not a marketing expert, but when headlines pile up implicating that Microsoft doesn't fully stand behind XBox anymore, no wonder the number for new customers tank. I wouldn't "invest" in something that seems to be on the way out either.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 months ago

And it is very bad for the consumers, as the console market highly needs the competition. It’s a shame how MS is dropping the ball with Xbox

[–] [email protected] 47 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Judging by how Sony is doing even though they clearly "won" with the PS5, it looks like consoles as we know them are not long for this world, and that seems to be the idea Microsoft is pivoting around.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Xbox should just go straight pc game setup for the living room. A mass produced windows (I know, blegh) pc with a pretty solid gpu and Xbox controllers. Basically the steam deck treatment for the living room.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 6 months ago (2 children)

That's pretty much what the Xbox has been since the beginning. The original runs fucking directX and runs so similarly to PCs of the era under the hood that porting shit to it is famously easy. It's why the homebrew scene for it was so mind bogglingly huge.

Numerous times at E3 when they had demo units of new consoles people saw that the debug menus meant for staff were some mangled form of the current (at the time) Windows OS.


Most modern game consoles don't use much specialty hardware anymore. The OG Switch uses the nvidea shield CPU just downclocked, and can run android easily. Some emulators literally run better on the Switch through Android than as homebrew "native" apps.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Yes, but games were always "xbox" games. I straight up mean open for pretty much all PC games to run on. If a game dev makes their game work with an x box control scheme, you can play it.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago

I think signs are pointing toward that being their plan.

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