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Spotify, the world’s leading music streaming platform, is facing intense criticism and boycott calls following CEO Daniel Ek’s announcement of a €600m ($702m) investment in Helsing, a German defence startup specialising in AI-powered combat drones and military software.

The move, announced on 17 June, has sparked widespread outrage from musicians, activists and social media users who accuse Ek of funnelling profits from music streaming into the military industry.

Many have started calling on users to cancel their subscriptions to the service.

“Finally cancelling my Spotify subscription – why am I paying for a fuckass app that works worse than it did 10 years ago, while their CEO spends all my money on technofascist military fantasies?” said one user on X.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 15 hours ago

I thought we were already boycotting this shit

[–] [email protected] 5 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

What's up with the cool startup names recently? First Palantir the fortune teller ball, now Helsing the vampire hunter? Fuck yeah, who doesn't invest in these? /s

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 hours ago

thiel has an obsession with lotr, so he named all his evil companies after various lotr themes.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 20 hours ago

I can't speak for how viable it is for success or whether it's just a grift (as I haven't had the time to really research into it) but feels like as good a time as any to mention that, out in Australia, The Pack Music Cooperative is fundraising for a cooperative music streaming service: https://www.thepackaustralia.com.au/

They haven't raised a lot towards their goal, yet, and could probably use an the help they can get. As a cooperative, they'll side step a lot of the probably problems a corporation like Spotify or Tidal will have and they already are dedicated to prioritizing artists and their rights.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 21 hours ago

Funny enough, for local downloads of video game OSTs (which I like way too much), I've been recently turning to Steam of all things. Often cheaper than Bandcamp and DRM-free!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Jokes on them, I moved to CD and love it

[–] [email protected] 3 points 19 hours ago

Got 80GB of music on my phone, tried Spotify once, it was all live versions....

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I stopped using Spotify long ago because of their shitty business practices. Producing a product they killed support for within just a couple years without reimbursing customers and producing huge amounts of e-waste. Jacking their subscription prices twice in one year. Apparently, they also donated to Trump despite not being an American company?? That's to say nothing of their shitty recommendation algorithm, which just plays your most played tracks over and over. Good riddance.

For those interested, I use Tidal now. I'm satisfied with, their recommendation algo is fine and the higher quality streaming is really nice but nothing I've used has ever been as good as Google Play Music, I found so much good music though that service and could upload whatever I was missing. Once Tidal inevitably pisses me off, I'm going to move on to self hosting.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 19 hours ago

Being able to upload to Google Play Music was such a great feature. Honestly though, maybe it's best that they killed it when they did. That way it can live on in memory as the example of what a music streaming service should be like... instead of becoming an enshittified zombie like spotify is today.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Must be so nice to be so privileged as to be spoiled for choice on which fascist to support.

Spotify is the only streaming service available worldwide other than YouTube Music and Apple.

So for a lot of people it is either piracy or supporting a US tech megacorporation. Tidal, Qobuz, deezer. Cool, nice that they exist options. But most people in the planet would have to also pay a VPN and hope to not get their account banned if they want to use some of those alternatives.

It's funny really, to see how the “fascist option” for some is actually the most ethical for others.

There's always piracy of course, I suppose that is the only morally correct option always.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yarr

Is there a p2p music streaming platform yet?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

It requires a bit more effort but Soulseek has been around for years. I build my own music library from P2P or buying on Bandcamp. It all goes on my NAS and I stream it via Plexamp. I have my own library, my fiance's, a few friend's on there. I'm pushing 10k albums at this point.

I know I used to have an adblocked version of Spotify on my phone for convenience sake but I think they finally caught on and killed that. The AUR version still works for me however. I haven't had a Spotify subscription since probably like 2018.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Helsing supplies Ukraine which is defending itself in accord with international law and the UN Charter. An attacked nation defending itself against Russian aggression. Nothing wrong with that. Basically the opposite of Russian Z-fascism.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Yeah, it seems they also didn't mention that it's a European defense company, not a US defense company.

Europe is investing a lot into defense now and it's actually a good thing that they're moving away from dependence on the US defense industrial complex.

Spotify sucks tho. But that's a separate thing.

Clickbait article.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I empathize with the sentiment and agree with the argument that Europe should invest in its own defense infrastructure, particularly if Putin is gearing up to make a move.

That being said, Im increasingly wary of Europe's willingness to appease Trump, and find it probable that, if right-wing parties continue making political gains, this same infrastructure will be turned against marginalized communities in these same countries; in a similar vein to the U.S regime's attacks against immigrants and dissenters.

Again, I'm not opposed to re-armament, but I hope EU citizens exercise more vigilance and skepticism in this era of resurging nationalism and protectionism.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Everyone knows what Trump is. Trump is demanding an increase in military spending with the expectation that the money will go to the US. He's basically demanding tribute.

Saying "sure we'll spend more on defense" while spending on our own defense industry is calling his bluff while also getting ready for if and when he starts using the US military to bully allies.

Nobody else in the world needs to be lectured about the problems with the US military industrial complex. We know.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Sharing my thoughts isnt lecturing. Sit down and stop being condescending.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 19 hours ago

"Sit down and stop being condescending." -- someone that doesn't lecture people

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

A lot of money being invested in Euro defense right now.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago

damn people are just learning that spotify is a shitty pro fascist/pro white supremacist company?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Who's calling for that boycott? Putin?

Respect for the true pacifists out there, but investing in EU-based defense industry is hardly questionable by ordinary standards.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

Probably. Rashism is real.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Europe used the specter of Russia to justify it's dive into militant fascism the last time too.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

False. Western Europe increased arms spending in response to German aggression. Germany increased arms spending... well.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Germany, famously not part of Europe.

Germany increased arms spending… well.

Well what? The specter of Russia was a huge part of how Germany justified it's fascism.

Just like now.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

False.

Germany built up it's army in preparation for attacking the rest of Europe. Adults usually know this. Sorry if I have misjudged your age.

Germany and Soviet Russia were allies and cooperated in the attack on Poland. This only fell apart when Hitler betrayed Stalin by invading the Soviet Union.

It is said that in all his life, Stalin only ever trusted one person: Adolf Hitler. When German communists conscripted into the Wehrmacht defected in the night before the attack, to bring warning to the Soviet Union, Stalin had them shot. The last supply train carrying grain for Nazi Germany crossed the border less than 2 hours before the launch.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

That’s a dog’s breakfast of anti-communist slander you’ve gobbled up, Mr. Adultman. This is the garbage they taught in West Germany? I guess that’s one of the consequences of Stalin stopping at Berlin.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 hours ago

West Germany

Oh wow. Looks like you fell into a time warp, comrade. No spoilers but it'll all get better in 1953. But stay away from Moscow in March.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 18 hours ago

It is said that in all his life, Stalin only ever trusted one person: Adolf Hitler.

It must be so easy being a right winger: you can just make up any old bullshit off the top of your head and apparently people will believe you.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Well tough guy, how else is Raytheon supposed to perfect its AIM-9X Romper Room baby-seeking missile's accuracy?

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