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    [–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

    Arch stable ? I mean, from experience, I've had one break in stability so bad it made me hop : the lack of gentoo-like config protect. To be fair, I was on Artix but the breakage was versions of Pipewire deleting not just my changed config files but config files it couldn't run without ! Or to be fair, also, actual Arch but on my phone, plasma 5 package conflicts (that came as is from the installation image) prevent the whole system from updating πŸ™ƒ ... Never had any of those 2 problems on OpenSUSE or, to be fair, non-Arch-based distros

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    [–] [email protected] 15 points 11 months ago

    Steven Crowder is dumb enough to think that.

    [–] [email protected] 57 points 11 months ago (1 children)

    I have no horse in the Linux distro race, I'm just downvoting this inferior version of the meme format because fuck that guy.

    [–] [email protected] 16 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    You can down vote on lemmy?

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

    I can downvote on kbin. I haven't find a nice, beautiful and simple app for it like Thunder for Lemmy, though.

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    [–] [email protected] 17 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

    lemmy.one has disabled downvotes, it's up to admins of each instance if they allow viewing and making downvotes.

    [–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

    At least in the Voyager app. I have heard it's not the same thing as elsewhere but I haven't taken the time to understand how or why it's different.

    [–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

    I use the Voyager web app via lemmy.one and it does not.

    [–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (2 children)
    [–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    Maybe the Lemmy instance I use blocks down votes?

    [–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

    That sounds reasonable to me! Would explain why the mobile app has it and the web app doesn't; I don't know if a Lemmy instance has a way to advertise the functions it supports to third party apps.

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    [–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago

    Have you ever even used opensuse?

    [–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (5 children)

    Arch based distros are pretty stable in my experience. I actually had much more problems on distros like Debian and PopOs than Arch.

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    [–] [email protected] 12 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

    OpenSUSE exists as a testbed for SLE, I don't think there's anything confusing about that. It's also much easier to get to a sensible setup for new users. If it weren't for the AUR and the Arch Wiki, I would probably still be using it.

    [–] [email protected] 44 points 11 months ago (1 children)

    Bold :-) openSUSE is based on zypper and rpm. Arch Linux uses its own package system.

    p.s. Please replace that Change my mind guy with a Calvin and Hobbes one.

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    [–] [email protected] 26 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

    OpenSUSE was actually released long before Arch even existed. I'm an Arch user, btw, but I consider both operating systems to be excellent choices. Everyone has their own preferences. Let people enjoy what they like and embrace their individuality. We don't all have to be alike....

    [–] [email protected] 15 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

    OpenSUSE was actually released long before Arch even existed.

    You're basically right but just some historic facts added :

    Judd Vinet started the Arch Linux project in March 2002. OpenSUSE : Its development was opened up to the community in 2005, which marked the creation of openSUSE. Before that it was called SUSE Linux, first released in 1994.

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    [–] [email protected] 14 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (5 children)

    Serious question: What makes Arch's package manager so "great"? I always just found it confusing to use. The flags don't make any sense to me. It feels like you have to add a varying number of s or y to get it to do what you want. I never found it to be any faster or slower than any of the others (apart from portage of course) out there. And apart from the flags it doesn't seem to give me any more or less trouble than the others.

    [–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    It's fast. That's why it's great. I've considered switching to opensuse a lot, but the speed of pacman compared to how slow zypper is always drags me back to arch

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    [–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

    I use tumbleweed on my desktop, but run arch on a secondary machine. From experience, pacman is much faster than zypper, even on a slower machine.

    [–] [email protected] 12 points 11 months ago (4 children)

    pacman -Snstall -yefresh -yefresh -unly-upgrades

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    [–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

    As a user it's definitely harder to get into than apt or dnf. However, as a packager, it's very easy to package new applications for pacman. That's also why the AUR offers this many packages often not found in other distros.

    [–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

    Dunno. Anecdotal, a few years ago pacman appeared to be much faster than apt-get for me. Currently I don't see that very much difference but then again I haven't paid much attention to it.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

    there's nala as an upgrade to apt, but pacman iirc has a few more features still

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