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[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

and the pedestrian-emergency-break on tesla cars, and many other cars with that feature will malfunction sometimes causing people behind you to rear-end you.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

Yeah but that's usually the fault of the driver behind you. They're too close, should've left more distance for emergency braking.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I just read on LinkedIn a post from a Tesla engineer laid off.

He said "I checked my email while auto piloting to work".

The employees know more than anyone its capabilities and they still take the same stupid risk.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago

Just like fight club, they're imagining them crashing into every transport they come close to

[–] [email protected] 19 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Obviously the time to react to the problem was before the system told you about it, that's the whole point, THE SYSTEM IS NOT READY. Cars are not ready to drive themselves, and obviously the legal system is too slow and backwards to deal with it so it's not ready either. But fuck it let's do it anyway, sure, and while we're at it we can do away with the concept of the driver's license in the first place because nothing matters any more and who gives a shit we're all obviously fucking retarded.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

Yep, and even then it is very limited in when and where you can use it at this point.

Level 4 is the general use “high autonomy” vehicle, and while a few robotaxis and shuttles are able to do it, no regular car has it yet.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Accoring to the math in this video: :

  • 150 000 000 miles have been driven with Teslas "FSD", which equals to
  • 375 miles per tesla purchased with FSD capabilities
  • 736 known FSD crashes with 17 fatalities
  • equals 11.3 deaths per 100M miles of teslas FSD

Doesnt sound to bad, until you hear that a human produces 1.35 deaths per 100M miles driven...

Its rough math, but holy moly that already is a completely other class of deadly than a non FSD car

[–] [email protected] -1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

That number is like 1.5 billion now and rising exponentially fast.

Also those deaths weren't all FSD they were AP.

The report says 1 FSD related (not caused by but related) death. For whatever reason the full details on that one weren't released.

Edit: There are billions of miles on AP. In 2020 it was 3 billion

Edit: Got home and I tried finding AP numbers through 2024 but haven't seen anything recent, but given 3 billion 2020, and 2 billion in 2019, and an accelerating rate of usage with increased car sales, 2023 is probably closer to 8 billion miles. I imagine we'd hear when they reach 10 billion.

So 8 billion miles, 16 AP fatalities (because that 1 FSD one isn't the same) is 1 fatality per 500,000,000 miles, or put into the terms above by per 100mil miles, 0.2 fatalities per 100 million miles or 6.75 times less than a human produces. And nearly all of these fatal accidents were from blatant misuse of the system like driving drunk (at least a few) or using their phone and playing games.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

a human produces 1.35 deaths per 100M miles driven

My car has been driven around 100k miles by a human, i.e. it has produced 0.00135 deaths. Is that like a third of a pinky toe?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago

Yeah, another 900k, and you'll be ded.

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