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Is there any reason, beyond corporate greed, for SMS messages to cost so much?

If I get it right, an SMS message is just a short string of data, no different from a message we send in a messenger. If so, then what makes them so expensive? If we'd take Internet plans and consider how much data an SMS takes, we should pay tiny fraction of a cent for each message; why doesn't that happen?

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[–] [email protected] 67 points 6 months ago (1 children)

SMS are completely free? I mean yeah, they cost money back in 2009, but that was a loooooong time ago.

Wherever you are, you're being completely screwed, yeah.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 6 months ago (2 children)

They aren't free in Canada.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Yes they are? I guess maybe not up north but in every province they sure are

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[–] [email protected] -2 points 6 months ago

It was expensive before because it's a supreme form of communication: don't need both parties to be online and vacant, conveys complex info in a succint form (think numbers, adresses) that's saved on both parties' phones like notes for later, have an option to pay for another party to answer you, could be printed and sent in secret when there's a meeting or a lesson (with physical buttons most could've printed a message under the table) and it kinda had it's own culture, with basic emoticons and shorthands for words - even if being far from how popular it became in Japan and in pager's times.

Right now SMS messages aren't used that much by individuals since it was killed by the internet+messengers+touchscreens trio so they charge extra to milk those who happen to need that. A lot of carriers at my place provide subscription plans with minutes and gigabytes, with SMS as additional paid package or with a ridiculous price for every message.

But they don't actually earn much here, even if they charge a whopping lot. SMS providers get fed by commercial contracts with services who notify you of delivery, send you verification codes and show you your CC balance. Signal, the messenger, started to look into phone number-less accounts because their non-profit is tired to shoulder the price they need to pay for just an SMS per login. Some services now call instead of texting you and make you write the last numbers of the phone to verify your identity, because it's cheaper for now.

I feel kinda nostalgic of times when it was popular and carriers introduced special plans for messaging enthusiasts. I hate people calling for every small thing and I'm tired of checking multiple internet channels of information. With SMS it all was simple and direct.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 6 months ago (2 children)

What are you paying for SMS? I pay 6 euro a month for unlimited sms and calls and 2 GB data. 50+ mobiel is my provider. Now they offer my plan with the first year for 2,5 euro. Dirt cheap.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Around 0,03 euro per SMS - not huge, but when someone contacts you via SMS and you have to communicate this way, money disappear quickly.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, I drop the equivalent of 16€ and I get 60GB data and unlimited calls and SMS with my Danish provider. Having to pay for SMS is purely corporate greed.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

What about sending sms to other countries though? I have free domestic sms but pay like 0.20€ for international (within EU).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

I pay 0,07€ international, vice versa is free roaming.

[–] [email protected] 56 points 6 months ago (5 children)

Wait, I haven't paid for text messages in probably 15 years. Where do they still charge for SMS? It's usually unlimited with any plan that I've seen

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (4 children)

Assuming you're in UK or Ireland, most of the world still pays for SMS.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

Not in Poland either

[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 months ago

Not in the US. Smartphones killed that shit.

But there was a time where people did the math, and SMS was more expensive than what it costs NASA to get data from the Hubble.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Really basic plans still charge you. When I was in school, my parents gave me a dumb phone with a plan that cost 10 cents per minute of calling or 10 cents per sms. MMS didn't even work. Ridiculously expensive, but at the amount I was using still cheaper than anything else

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago

I think my phone plan (in Japan) charges for outgoing SMS. I don't think it's much. I think some plans maybe include it. We all use LINE here (like much of Europe uses Whatsapp) so most people aren't sending text messages regularly if at all.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago

The last phone I ever had that dinged me for SMS messages was the tracfone I owned when that was all I could afford. I think that might have been like a decade or so ago? Maybe closer to 15 like you were saying.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Pay-as-you-go is still popular in poorer markets, more rural areas or even in pro-competitive markets. It's only particularly scummy markets that force customers to use their credit within a certain time period so for those who only rarely call/text and have consistent access to wifi, even 5-10 dollars worth of credit can last a year or more. Extremely consumer-friendly.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Yeah, I'm within the reach of wifi almost constantly. Only need to call or send an SMS very rarely, so I'm quite happy to just have credit as backup. I get the feeling my provider would really love to get me on some monthly plan, but that ain't happening if I can help it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

For such limited usage, it's absolutely not worth monthly. Unlimited for X amount is only good value if you're making enough use out of it to outweigh the cost of PAYG. I used to travel for work and even at a bargain price of ~$10 for 20GB/unlimited/unlimited, I was only really using my data for Spotify while driving so come the end of the monthly cycle, I'd have an evening of watching YT or whatever else on my data since I'd still typically have about half left.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I didnt know SMS is expensive. I know it was but i thought it was free nowadays.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago (2 children)

When you say free, as in totally free that you can send and receive anytime even without a plan? Or you mean free because it is already included in your prepaid or postpaid plan?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago

Free as in: unlimited calls and texts are included in pretty much all but the most bargain bin plans nowadays.

I was looking for a new cell provider a couple months ago, and I honestly don't recall even seeing a plan that didn't come with unlimited talk and text.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 6 months ago

Sending an SMS as an operation is just as expensive as checking for signal. Which every phone is constantly doing.

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