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[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago

Maybe they just got a statement by "Most Men Lawn Service" or something.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

Say it all you want. Doesnt have any bearing on observed reality

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

What's the opposite of eating the onion?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

The NYT has been having a real one ever since Trump edged ahead of Biden in the polls.

This is pretty standard for the Newspaper Of Record. They will gargle your balls when you're leading, then start pissing on your face as soon as you dip under the 50% marker.

This creates a certain degree of ideological confusion, as "The NYT is too right wing!" was a popular belief under Bush while "No! Too left wing!" was popular under Obama and later Trump.

But they're literally just blowing in the wind. If Biden ever gets over the 50% approval line, you'll see a flood of "Yo, did you know Trump Bad Aktuly?!" headlines and "Is Biden our greatest American President? These three guys trying to sell you a book think so!" Op-Ed think pieces.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

I'm sure he respects some women. Right? .... Right?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

Excuse me, what?

I unfortunately know a lot of guys who like him (and a couple of women) and it's more like they don't care, not that they have a positive view of his personal life, they just don't think it's relevant. They like how he functioned as president, or rather, how they recall he did.

Even in that group you wouldn't find one who thought he was "respectful to women".

[–] [email protected] 56 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

This is the question and answer phrasing. Remember, these disingenuous fucks are purposefully trying to manipulate you.

The thing that pushes this "result" over the "majority" line (from this very likely flawed, non representative sample anyways) is the phrasing of "not much" as an answer - which FEELS like a NO answer to many, but is TECHNICALLY read here and tallied as a YES. Cowards.

Remember, polls are archaic, inaccurate and pretty much exclusively made up of a swath of the country, dying in place with otherwise empty lives, that now dedicate themselves to waiting for these calls to give purposefully misleading answers to skew results and provide click bait to unscrupulous reporters like this one. This poll was ONLY telephone based and answers of non-college graduate were weighted heavier than others, per their stated methodology.

Also, what does it say to you about this question THAT IT WAS ONLY ASKED ABOUT TRUMP? This poll is full of directly comparative questions about both Biden and trump, not this one though... weird coincidence I guess?

Register and get out to vote. We helped that criminal, rapist loser lose last time and we'll do it again.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

We helped that criminal, rapist loser lose last time and we'll do it again.

🤨

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

This is a great comment to contextualize the headline. But the numbers you are showing are for registered voters while the headline specifies men. Were there crosstabs for male respondent results that paint a less reasonable picture? 41% (weighted, as you point out) of all registered voters is already pretty high for the two yes-aligned answers, it wouldn't shock me if the political gender gap pushes those two over 50% when looking specifically at men, as unfortunate of an indicator as that is on the ability of those in my gender to understand what respect for women even looks like

Edit: found it, the crosstabs for men do indeed show 54% at "a lot" + "some". Truly an embarrassing showing

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

Lie often enough and it starts looking like truth

[–] [email protected] -1 points 6 months ago

Unintentionally funny title

[–] [email protected] 67 points 6 months ago (1 children)

men who view trump as respectful to women are men women should probably run screaming from.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Yeah, it takes a whole lot of misogyny for a man to look at this dude's actions and statements over decades in the public eye and still arrive at the opinion that Donald fucking Trump respects women.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago

None of them accept facts. They say they do but they reject them. Half of my friends I've known since before politics mattered to us ended up on the misinformed Rubepublican side. If you give them facts (like adoptions rose by 52% when gay marriage was legalized in the 90's) they just reject them or ad another criteria. The guy we were arguing with said gay couples don't make a difference because older children still have a hard time getting adopted, what?

These people aren't interested in good faith arguments or any evidence presented. They've figured out subconsciously that reality does not align with their viewpoints and are primed to reject it. Idk what you do when a good chunk of your population gets like this but we need to do something to get these people out of these harmful misinformation circles.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 6 months ago (2 children)

It's also stupid because Trump doesn't really respect anyone regardless of gender. He just regards people as furniture.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

Trump loves his beautiful generals. He loves Big Guys. He absolutely adores a strong man dictator, whether its Mussolini or Kim Jung Un or Putin or Xi or Duterte or Netanyahu. Anyone a line of guys in uniform have to salute can win Trump's heart.

He's simply got a hard on for powerful people. Margaret Thatcher's Iron Lady act absolutely gets his rod up.

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