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[–] [email protected] 57 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (4 children)

I can see people not necessarily wanting suggestions for tab group names, but... The rest of the list is translations and alt text suggestions for images added to PDFs. The most uncontroversial AI features if ever there were any.

I really don't care for this urge to advertise "AI" everywhere. I also don't care much for the knee-jerk reaction just because someone calls something AI.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

So they don't intend on making a profit from it from data gathering, nobody asked for it, and the open source community who would otherwise donate or contributes to Mozilla are so disgusted by the whole thing tgat they are now just holding their noses and waiting for an alternative.

All of this while Google is stepping down as sugar daddy and they need all the help they can get.

Why the hell are they doing this? Is it just a case of moronic leadership and getting stuck in a negative spiral where the whole operation gets stupider and stupider with each new hire?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Well, people were at least asking for translations all the time.

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[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Its run locally on the device. Did you even read it?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Run locally doesn't mean it isn't sending telemetry data about the inputs and outputs.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

why would adding a local AI make them more likely to use telemetry data without user consent? it's not like they couldn't already have access to your entire browsing history if they wanted to

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

I am saying that the phrase 'run locally' does not guarantee that the data will remain local. If they don't make telemetry defaulted to off then many people will trust the 'we respect your privacy' message and assume the data is staying local without searching out an opt out setting.

I am not saying Firefox will send data if telemetry is turned off. I am saying that adding AI is associated with sneaky ways of collecting data and yes that is a reason to be suspicious about motives.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

AI also doesn't mean that it has to send data to a backend. Your basis for accusing Mozilla of doing something questionable is that they put technologies to use which happen to also be used by data-harvesting companies. This is like saying they're evil, because they use programming languages or databases. It entirely depends on how these technologies are used.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It would be like saying they want to harvest data because they switched the code base to Chromium, not programming languages in general.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

Oops. Back to Pale Moon or SeaMonkey for me.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 weeks ago

It's good to watch Mozilla pouring their time, effort, and dwindling funds into the most important features - AI ones!

[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

As long as I can disable it, I don't care.

I don't trust AI to catch all the things that interest me on the pages I visit, and I don't want to waste energy on something I won't use.

It should be disabled by default, to avoid the huge energy costs associated with running LLM's.

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[–] [email protected] 63 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

all these AI features seem like the most useless waste of GPU I have ever seen implemented! Why the hell do I need recommendations for the names of my tab groups? I freaking love that the tech industries' idea of progress in the 2020's is wasting resources on nothing.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

TBF, I love my tab groups, and honestly having to come up with and type out a name for each of them is the biggest hurdle. It's a small thing, but I can imagine myself using tab groups even more because of it.

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Yeah, translation is the only thing here I have any desire at all to use

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (8 children)

There are other practical things to use a browser-based AI for, like accessibility improvements for sites that didn’t provide proper alt text or other accessibility features.

But I think an important one few people are talking about is an AI “babysitter” for my grandma so she doesn’t fall for phishing scams. Ad blocking does a lot to protect people there but some smarter detection would be good for a significant chunk of society. Not that this exists yet.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

So, which browser now? Please advise.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

I feel bad for the LibreWolf devs who continue to desperately say that it's not designed to be a general use browser.

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