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I know its easier than ever to dunk on how terrible reddit has gotten, but honestly? What is this? How is is safer to deliver this content to kids viewing reddit on a tablet or PC or in the app? Why even create the bs excuse?

They could just have easily told the truth an displayed a message like "Content is limited. Open in the app to view." It's still a jerk move, but at a minimum its honest.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Tons of comments and not one answering OP's question. I would be interesting in knowing the official reasoning too, but nobody here is answering the question.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago

Maybe nobody actually knows the answer, except probably Reddit devs and the managers that made them push those changes out, neither of which will be at liberty to say.

We can all speculate - they're doing something for the sake of being seen to be doing something instead of actually blocking the content; they don't want to block the content selectively because that means KYC and lots of people get upset about that sort of thing, etc etc.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Check out redlib. It's a fork of Libreddit that doesn't get ratelimited.

The instance I use: https://lr.vern.cc/

If anything happens to that, not only will it probably be forked, but there's also kddit and Eddrit, as well as a couple of old Libreddit instances that Reddit forgot about.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 6 months ago

I feel like there is probably a linux solution for a kid's tablet, like a refurbished android device, that would be better than a lot of the products on the market which have in the past been a part of countless privacy concerns. VTech and Amazon are big recent examples of lawsuits over children's privacy violations, and both Hasbro and Mattel have violated COPPA in the past, it's been an industry for over a decade and has no signs of stopping.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 6 months ago

Infinity for Reddit still works

[–] [email protected] 36 points 6 months ago

The best tablet for kids is one with no fucking speakers.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 6 months ago (6 children)

The best tablet for a kid is no tablet. Screen time is a serious issue, dont mess with your kid's brain.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

Honestly I love my tablet for reading manga. I know that as a kid I would have found a way to use it for other things but I think I would consider it for my kid for reading manga and comics. Maybe some type of e ink device....

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago

It depends as there is no right answer.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

That's how you get your kids to spend all their time at their friends' houses...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

As if it's a bad thing for your kids to be out socializing?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

You missed the point

[–] [email protected] 45 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (4 children)

Do you also support "just say no to drugs" and abstinence only sex ed? Screens, as a concept, are not literally the devil. It's unmonitored and unlimited screen time that's the issue.

E: Damn y'all are dense. "Just say no" was a failed messaging campaign from the war on drugs. The alternative isn't "say yes to drugs"; it's actual education about drugs so you know what they are and the actual dangers they can pose. The "just say no" campaign taught that weed was a "gateway drug" and that everyone that tries the devil's lettuce will start using cocaine, amphetamines, and there's a 100% chance you'll become a homeless junkie and die of an overdose. It was about as ignorant as you can get.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 6 months ago

I can't believe this even has to be stated, but you should not be giving drugs to your children, you concaveman.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I think kids should not be doing drugs, period

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago

I draw the line at needle drugs for kids

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Um yeah, just say no to drugs. Marijuana is fine but it's never made anyone more productive when used recreationally. Cigarettes are horrible for you, alcohol is dangerous, and any more hardcore drugs can be life-ruining.

And when talking about kids, yeah, they should avoid having sex until they're like 17 or 18. When they're basically adults. Nobody is telling 14 year olds that it's okay to have sex, because at that age, it's likely coerced. And especially not those who are the subject of "best tablets for kids."

[–] [email protected] -2 points 6 months ago

I hope you aren't letting your kids smoke Marijuana. That is really, really bad if you are.

As far as tablets go you just need to be careful of how and when they are used. It also depends on the age of the child. They best answer is almost always education.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 6 months ago (1 children)

No need to be an asshole and no need to presume I'm stupid. My kids dont have any tablet, we monitor screen/tv time and they play with my phone from time to time. That's enough for at least until they're 12. Every recent study shows that kids spend way too much time staring at screen.. It should be less then one hour a day, we keep it under two. I teach to young adult and this generation is litteraly addicted to their phone. Most have a 6 minutes attention spam and get anxious if they can't look at their phone for more then 10 minutes. Lot's of my friends kids have their own device and the parents keeps fighting with them over screen time. You do what you want, I'll keep my way.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I never said that. Sounds like you're projecting.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago

Of course. And I'm not saying you're a asshole, just that you sound like one.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Yes that's why kids' tablets exist. They're less powerful devices loaded with a special version of android that's been MDM'd up the ass to give parents strict control over how their children use the thing. It helps you regulate screen time to a safe level instead of depriving your child of it entirely.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 6 months ago

What concerns me the most (I'm not a parent) is the advertising and deliberately addictive games. I think forcibly shutting it off is not a good idea as you are basically becoming a drug dealer to the kid.

Maybe make them willing shut it off instead of forcing it off. If they aren't mature enough to do that they either the software is terrifyingly addictive or they are to young.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

That's exactly why you look for a tablets specifically for kids. The features you want are parental control, time locking, and app screening.

The entire future of learning is built around screens. Kids take standardized tests on touchscreens. They will do their taxes in an app, research topics with the internet, communicate with their peers in messaging apps, apply for jobs in apps, and build new tools through programming.

They must learn to use screens effectively without getting addicted to them.

Kids who learn those skills early, who practice using a tablet and then putting it down, those kids will be better equipped to go put into the world.

I agree with you that too many parents use screens as babysitters. And while tablets are more addictive and predatory, that's been a problem since screens existed. There's a cool documentary on it calles The Cable Guy.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Careful as many child protection apps tend to owned and run by data brokers.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago

Can't believe this is controversial, it should be public knowledge that most children's items with wifi capability are a privacy nightmare. Nobody should be downvoting what you just said.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 6 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago (1 children)

For as long as it lasts. It’s clear they’re neglecting it - features like chat don’t work well. Not that the app isn’t a broken glitchy mess either.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago

Right? I see it as a bonus that chat doesn’t work.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

This is the way

[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Has anyone tried to scrape Reddit, so that the valuable content from some subs isn't lost for good?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago

I suppose we could just ask whatever AI it is that they're selling the data to.

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