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[–] [email protected] 22 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

If we have programs set up to aid people that are earning 200-250% of the federal poverty level, then what it really says is that our federal guidelines for what constitutes "living in poverty" is drastically out of date.

$15,060 per year for 1 person

$31,200 per year for a family of 4 (Shouldn't this be 4x the individual amount anyway?)

These are just ludicrous. avg rent on a 1 bedroom is $1,500/ month, or $18,000/year

We have a poverty crisis that isn't being realized by the data, because federal guidelines say it's A-OK for a person to be working full time and living on the street

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

A family of four doesn’t need four kitchens and four bedrooms, so not every cost scales linearly as a household increases in size. Some things are also cheaper in bulk than if you are just buying enough for one person. I do think a family of four probably needs more than twice what a single person needs, however, but I am no expert on this. In any case, housing costs have drastically outpaced wages and safety nets, which is massively evident by all the homeless camps everywhere.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

I mean, I'd love to have my own kitchen... Personally I prefer the life of the Solarian (from The Foundation series, possibly the greatest Science Fiction series ever)

[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Guys, what IS this country's safety net they're talking about?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 months ago

US Military?

[–] [email protected] 41 points 6 months ago (2 children)

The American "safety net" is an invalid term.

Other countries have safety nets.

The states have optional temporary emergency measures that don't fully support basic needs.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 months ago (1 children)

What I love is how many of them have work requirements now. It's not a safety net if it doesn't help you when you can't get a job.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago

And those work requirements usually stop benefits once you make a certain income, often putting you below where you were when you were solely on benefits.

Meaning it's an uphill battle just to stay afloat... I'm mixing metaphors here, but you know I mean.

The system is built to determine who deserves benefits, not who needs them.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 months ago (2 children)

The joys of "rugged individualism" and tugging on them bootstraps. We really need to reevaluate this whole social contract business.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Well I keep on mentioning a UBI of $1k a month, but people keep flaming me.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago

The only "free" money allowed goes to corporations and banks, who mismanage themselves and the stock market, thereby causing rich people to feel uncomfortable.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

Couldn't agree more

[–] [email protected] 79 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Asset Limited, Income Constrained, Employed

[–] [email protected] 22 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 29 points 6 months ago

"Working poor" sounds bad. "Proletariat" sounds unamerican.