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The former president is telling Republicans he "doesn't want Biden to have a victory" in 2024, said a source familiar with the bipartisan negotiations.

Donald Trump on Wednesday privately pressured Senate Republicans to “kill” a bipartisan deal to secure the U.S. border because he doesn’t want President Joe Biden to chalk up a win ahead of the 2024 presidential election, according to a source familiar with the tenuous negotiations on the package.

Trump directly reached out to several GOP senators on Wednesday to tell them to reject any deal, said this source, who requested anonymity to speak freely. The GOP presidential frontrunner also personally reached out to some Senate Republicans over the weekend, the source told HuffPost.

“Trump wants them to kill it because he doesn’t want Biden to have a victory,” said the source. “He told them he will fix the border when he is president… He said he only wants the perfect deal.”

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Way to really care about the country Donnie. Reeeeeaaallly great.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

GOP congressmen were literally complaining about not having any accomplishments to show during this term, and their strategy is to keep doing nothing? Awesome plan dudes, keep it up.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 9 months ago

Then Democrats will get to say they made huge concessions on parole and asylum during these talks, and Trump tanked it. That’s a much better space politically than they were in just before these Senate talks began. But, it doesn't matter since the voters will be set early and won't remember that Trump owns the problem.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

So 5-10 years ago, this would be political suicide and the rhetoric was never this violent and polarized.

I worry where we will be in the next 5-10 years if this trend continues.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (2 children)

We're going to be fighting Fascism at least until Trump is too old or senile to keep going. He has a death grip on the party, but at least nobody else thus far can take up his mantle.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

They are fragile people. If that dude shits his pants on television their entire identity immediately falls apart.

Come to think of it, check him for diapers.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 9 months ago

The bitch of fascism is always in heat. When he croaks it his supporters won't suddenly turn into rational people, another piece of shit will pick up the torch.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Straight out of the Nixon playbook.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

In all but the particulars this is the Nixon/Humphrey election.

Swap out Vietnam for border

Swap out the eve of the election for a year before the election

Swap out an evil pseudo-intellectual for an evil fucking idiot

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

I fucking hate Trump so much dude

[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago

I know Repubs don't actually want a functioning government, but JFC, when half the govt actively, publicly and LOUDLY works against it, it's no surprise it's so fucked up.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (5 children)

No surprise there. Senate Republicans want another delay in a Democrat win to fuck over America. Remember how Iran delayed releasing hostages so Reagan could use it against Carter?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

^^ This comment wins.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Well, not just America. Remember that part of the border deal crap involves Republicans agreeing to fund military aid to Ukraine. Ukraine is defending themselves from Russia. Putin runs Russia. Trump really likes Putin, far more than any normal person would.

Trump is a fucking traitor.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Also, there's a non-zero chance we'll get dragged into a war with Russia if Putin attacks a NATO country after Ukraine. Senators know that if we don't fund Ukraine now, it will be much worse for everyone later, and potentially having Trump at the helm during that time would be an unmitigated disaster.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

There are more than a few articles about how people had to sandbag things to stop him from trying to unilaterally withdraw from NATO.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Maybe if this happens again, with most of the adults purged from the room, next time, if there are any left, one adult will just pull out their revolver and sandbag this up properly for everyone.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago

Don’t tempt me with a good time

[–] [email protected] 14 points 9 months ago (3 children)

That wasn't even the first time. Nixon tried to sabotage Vietnamese peace talks in 1968 to hurt LBJ. It worked then too, the only thing that matters when you want power is winning.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

It goes back and back like that. I mean, they shot John in the head in broad daylight.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

AKA Kissinger's job interview.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

Someone should check on Kissinger and make sure they're still dead. Don't want to risk that Kissinger is a lich. While you are at, take a shit on Kissinger grave for us.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The last halfway decent repub was Eisenhower.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

And Ike was apolitical. He joined the Republicans because he felt the Democrats were too strong and he wanted levity between the two.

For fun look up his presidential platform to see how...progressive... Republicans used to be and how far theyve fallen.

Shit you don't even have to go that far back, Reagan, their neo-liberal god, would be lampooned in today's GOP. He passed gun-control and gave amnesty to those here illegally - both of which we should do again. He also ignored a pandemic resulting in millions of unnecessary deaths, just like our last Republican president, you know the one who stole Reagans motto, Make America Great Again. Yea Reagan did that first, that was his schtick and they both fucking failed HARD at that.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

Traitors, all of them.