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Can we get a setting to not show posts with negative vote sum? (lemmy.world)

submitted 7 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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There's so much spam, and people diligently downvote. But the posts are still shown, with -53 votes or something.

When a post is clearly unwanted, could it be hidden?

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago

yes please. let the users set a threshold. I mean slashdot had it before people where using the term social media.

[+] [email protected] -19 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Yeah, leave it to people to tell you what is good or not... Great fuckin idea...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

Thank you for illustrating why this proposal would be a good feature.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Sounds like a good idea to me.

I look up reviews before buying a product. If a few dozen people think something is crap, why should it pop up in my feed? I'm not buying every product just so I can form my own opinions on all of them.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 7 months ago

Wow did you just try to analogize buying something from amazon and reading an online forum?

Oh yeah, 100% the same thing

Jfc

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I think this could have utility. But I'm in many communities that are just automatically downvoted by the people outside the community. So my communities would get even less interaction than they currently get

It would be nice to count votes only by people who are subscribers or comment in a community, but that's probably going to be a larger lemmy feature that's going to take time to develop

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

I agree, this would be a bad setting to have before the platform fixes the broader issue.

There are lots of reasons people downvote things and for many communities it has nothing to do with that community's content quality. Until communities can opt out of inclusion in the All list it's just going to disappear communities for people.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 7 months ago (2 children)

"Reddit is fun" had a feature with a vote threshold, it was something like "don't show posts with a score lower than ___."

This would be tremendously useful to have in Voyager. As an improvement, that setting could have a sub-setting, a list of communities where this setting does not apply.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago

I would probably want this in some sort of score/percentage mix. Like if a post had 15 upvotes and 20 downvotes, I would probably still want to see it as it just means it's something controversial rather than low effort/quality. However going off of percentage alone wouldn't work well in the beginning if it was immediately downvoted two or three times.

So probably more like:
score lower than {user_defined_low_score} AND score % less than {user_defined_low_percent}

We could also probably apply this to comment scores as well so we can avoid having to look at 2 users being petty towards each other... like what played out in one of the other replies to this comment.

[+] [email protected] -23 points 7 months ago (3 children)

This is not Reddit.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago

My threshold is -10, so I wouldn't have even written this reply if that feature existed!

Unless I felt like manually uncollapsing your comment, lol

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago

Reddit is Fun is not Reddit.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

And? You think this site needs to be enshittified because a good feature was used by reddit first?

Petty comment imo.

[+] [email protected] -13 points 7 months ago (2 children)

We are a federation, not a site.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago

This is not discussing federation, this is discussing a feature in one specific client. One that happens to overlap with RIF a lot in terms of functionality.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

A federation of what genius?

[+] [email protected] -10 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Federation

Lemmy has three types of federation:

Allowlist: Explicitly list instances to connect to.
BlockList: Explicitly list instances to not connect to. Federation is open to all other instances.
Open: Federate with all potential instances.

Federation is enabled by default. You can add allowed and blocked instances, by adding a comma-delimited list in your instance admin panel. IE to only federate with these instances, add: enterprise.lemmy.ml,lemmy.ml to the allowed instances section.

Lemmy uses the ActivityPub protocol (a W3C standard) to enable federation between different servers (often called instances). This is very similar to the way email works. For example, if you use gmail.com, then you can not only send mails to other gmail.com users, but also to yahoo.com, yandex.ru and so on. Email uses the SMTP protocol to achieve this, so you can think of ActivityPub as "SMTP for social media". The amount of different actions possible on social media (post, comment, like, share, etc) means that ActivityPub is much more complicated than SMTP.

As with email, ActivityPub federation happens only between servers. So if you are registered on enterprise.lemmy.ml, you only connect to the API of enterprise.lemmy.ml, while the server takes care of sending and receiving data from other instances (eg voyager.lemmy.ml). The great advantage of this approach is that the average user doesn't have to do anything to use federation. In fact if you are using Lemmy, you are likely already using it. One way to confirm is by going to a community or user profile. If you are on enterprise.lemmy.ml and you see a user like @[email protected], or a community like [[email protected]](/c/[email protected]), then those are federated, meaning they use a different instance from yours.

One way you can take advantage of federation is by opening a different instance, like ds9.lemmy.ml, and browsing it. If you see an interesting community, post or user that you want to interact with, just copy its URL and paste it into the search of your own instance. Your instance will connect to the other one (assuming the allowlist/blocklist allows it), and directly display the remote content to you, so that you can follow a community or comment on a post. Here are some examples of working searches:

[[email protected]](/c/[email protected]) (Community)
@[email protected] (User)
https://lemmy.ml/c/programming(Community)
https://lemmy.ml/u/nutomic (User)
https://lemmy.ml/post/123 (Post)
https://lemmy.ml/comment/321 (Comment)

You can see the list of linked instances by following the "Instances" link at the bottom of any Lemmy page.

Fetching communities

If you search for a community first time, 20 posts are fetched initially. Only if a least one user on your instance subscribes to the remote community, will the community send updates to your instance. Updates include:

New posts, comments
Votes
Post, comment edits and deletions
Mod actions

You can copy the URL of the community from the address bar in your browser and insert it in your search field. Wait a few seconds, the post will appear below. At the moment there is no loading indicator for the search, so wait a few seconds if it shows "no results".

Fetching posts

Paste the URL of a post into your Lemmy instance's search field. Wait a few seconds until the post appears. This will also fetch the community profile, and the profile of the post creator.

Fetching comments

If you find an interesting comment under a posting on another instance, you can find below the comment in the 3-dot-menu the link-symbol. Copy this link. It looks like https://lemmy.ml/post/56382/comment/40796. Remove the post/XXX part and put it into your search-bar. For this example, search for https://lemmy.ml/comment/40796. This comment, all parent comments, users and community and the corresponding post are fetched from the remote instance, if they are not known locally.

Sibling comments are not fetched! If you want more comments from older posts, you have to search for each of them as described above.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Lmao, so after reading that did ypu figure out the answer to what you were asked?

A federation of what? It literally says it in your comment.

It's a 1 sentence answer, just a hint since you don't read very well.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

Hi there! Looks like you linked to a Lemmy community using a URL instead of its name, which doesn't work well for people on different instances. Try fixing it like this: [email protected]