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Archaeologists identified bone fragments of prehistoric modern humans in Germany, suggesting several millennia of coexistence with Neanderthals before the species disappeared

Modern humans had already settled in northwest Europe thousands of years before Neanderthals vanished forever in the southwest of the continent, according to the results of a recent excavation in Ranis, Germany. The new findings offer unprecedented insight into the two species’ interaction, suggesting they lived side by side and might have even interbred.

At the base of a medieval castle, 24 feet deep into the layered sediment of the Ilsenhöhle cave, scientists unearthed leaf-shaped spear points, animal remains and 13 bone fragments identified as early modern humans—evidence that Homo sapiens existed in northern Europe 45,000 years ago.

“Because of the age of this site and location, we know Neanderthals and humans quite definitively had a large overlap,” says study co-author Elena Zavala, a paleo and forensic geneticist at the University of California, Berkeley, to NBC News’ Evan Bush.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago (2 children)

We still do in the U.S., just look at the polls.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago

Hey, don't do Neanderthals dirty like that. Things point to them being pretty smart.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You leave the Polish outta this.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

@littlebluespark @ChihuahuaOfDoom
Na, let’s talk about the legacy of Polands former dalliance with the extreme right (Putinkin)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Far overshadowed by the US GOP's current cheek-spreading for Putin.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

@littlebluespark
There’s the middle and there’s the extremes

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Fair point, Canada. Fair point.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Every five years the date of the earliest homo sapiens is pushed back five thousand years. They'll be saying that homo sapiens were writing novels in 200,000 BC by the time I die.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago
[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

Definitely interbred... I know some of the descendants

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

So that's another tick in the box for "we may have accidentally fucked them into extinction."

Apparently the Halo effect is as much an evolutionary edge as it is a frustrating theory of societal treatment of its members.