We really needed a Boimler/Mariner trip to the 31st century or even a Tendi/Rutherford trip forward.
this post was submitted on 15 Apr 2024
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I'm not that surprised. The show's very nature gives it a limited shelf life. Part of the fun of Trek is watching the characters develop and advance in their careers. Eventually they're gonna get promoted past what can be called lower decks.
I'm a bit pissed off that they're canceling this and going ahead with the section 31 project, but I find section 31 to be tedious at best, and that it undermines Star Trek's message at worst. "Your utopian post-scarcity society that celebrates diversity can only exist because of these unaccountable fascists slinking about behind the scenes."
Section 31 was a cool concept in ds9 because of the context around it.
Every other time 31 shows up is just... Blech. Feels like those writers want to be writing something bloodier than star trek and this is their way to do it.
My biggest gripe with discovery was the secret plot to blow up the Klingon homeworld foiled at the last second. Almost turned me away from it entirely but they got much better. SNW is up there with TNG for me now.
SNW is very fun and much more like star trek
I never really understood the point of lower decks. It seems like a show that craters to the "adult cartoon" crowd.
Cartoons do big concept high-action content cheap when live action shows have settle on cheesy low-rent special effects and set dressing. Treasure Planet, Atlantis: The Lost Empire, the Lion King - basically impossible to do right without spending a fortune a la Avatar or Peter Jackson's Lord of the Rings.
Even if you aren't doing Sci-Fi, you can get a lot of mileage out of the medium simply because the artist is doing so much of the leg work. Check out "Monster" or "Perfect Blue", two shows that had originally been planned as live action dramas but got converted to animation for budgetary reasons. Also, too, "Grave of Fireflies" if you want to have your heart torn out.
Cartoon Trek goes right back to the series roots - there was a cartoon version of the Kirk Trek from '73 - and holds up better than the live action original in terms of visuals.
It's like nothing but Star Trek in jokes for fans. It's great.
It does cater to the adult cartoon crowd but it caters to trekkies in general. Mike McMahan has been a fan of Star Trek forever and as the showrunner did a lot of good universe building within the confines of the TNG era. It has a lot of callbacks and references and is just a fun and funny way to enjoy Star Trek.
I really liked it, I considered it one of the better shows in general, because being lead by a true fan and not just a writers room with notes allowed the show to be a fun little exploration and expansion of the universe, showing us the side of Starfleet we don't see very often.
Some people have criticized it for being too goofy with the argument that Starfleet officers are supposed to be professional. My counter is simply that not all officers are bridge crew material and there are so many mistakes that happen across all the random ships in the fleet that it's fun to center on one and see how it's going.
I was going to say, it has been my personal favorite star trek series since voyager mainly because its set in the timeline I enjoy the best and its aesthetics. Also, it's just fun.
Moopsy.
Yeah is it like, Rick & Morty for trekkers?
The first season is a bit like that, but it finds its own ground into season 2.
Nowhere near as crass as Rick and Morty which is a good thing
Definitely. They just didn't help themselves with wild, drunken Mariner early in the pilot
All Good Things...
...must be ended by short-sighted executive meddling.
Screw all of the executives, all they care about is money
The modern production house simply hates animation. That's the only thing I can conclude from how they've axed every anime, kid's cartoon, and live-action/cartoon mash-up on the slate.
They are going to lock Bugs Bunny in the vault and throw away the key.
They are going to lock Bugs Bunny in the vault and throw away the key.
Amateurs, he's going to appear right behind them for comedic effect.
Except The Simpsons, South Park, Futurama, Family Guy, etc.
Except Futurama
Because they don't get cancelled every few seasons?
We are living in the golden age of adult animation. -Polar Opposites -Krapopolis -The Great North -Bob's Burgers -American Dad -Archer -Grimsburg -Invinvible -Gary and hi Demons -Digman -Spiderman
They're on the decline. More of these programs are getting cut and fewer are going into production.
Who's vision is getting handsey with the female cast?
Hey, I didn't spend my career working up to network executive for nothing.
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