A. Who just randomly says orangutans are dumb B. I don't pay to live on earth C. Orangutans are awesome D. I hate capitalism
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Don't make it about our species. It's capitalism
Existed before Adam Smith
Adam Smith was much more critical of capitalism than he is given credit for. For example, Adam Smith was critical of rent seeking and landlords. It would be somewhat accurate to replace Orangutan with Adam Smith in this meme.
Yes Capitalism is supposed to be pro-worker/anti-rich
Hence my comment about people still paying to live before adoption of capitalism
Yes Capitalism is supposed to be pro-worker/anti-rich
Supposed by whom? The rent-seeking behavior that Smith criticized was largely brought about by enclosure; the process of enclosure was foundational to capitalism.
Hence my comment about people still paying to live before adoption of capitalism
This is ahistorical, before enclosure the peasantry had substantial rights to live freely on the common land.
I suppose it does depend on what is meant by ‘pay to live on this earth’. If you just mean that people have to work to take care of themselves then, sure. But that’s not really what this meme is referring to. If it was then the orangutan would be ‘paying to live on this earth’ as well.
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If monkeys could exchange goods and services to have shelter, easy food, and entertainment, you bet they would.
They even understand when the boss is fucking with their pay.
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Only difference between us here is we pay with paper, they pay with blood
Not even paper anymore, it's almost entirely funny numbers in a computer
Yeah its become so innocuos and default i forgot
You pay with blood every day
But not my blood and that's the real difference
Not me. Just sweat and tears. I leave the bloodwork for those with the stomach
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Go live the... Is that an orangutan? Life and get back to us.
Living is free, enjoying the benefits of modern civilization is not. Don't confuse the two.
Everything pays, just not with money.
Monkey pays to live. He pays in the form of the daily labor of foraging, avoiding predators and finding shelter. It's just not converted to the generalized form of money and then back to the basic needs of the monkey like we do it.
Labor is the basic unit of wealth. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise.
Even if you somehow had your own sovereign nation with everything needed to self-sustain your whole family, never needing to leave...
You're still paying.
With your time and effort.
Technically we pay for all the shit that makes living on earth less brutal than what the monke has to put up with on a daily basis
Money tends to be less painful than getting mauled by a predator trying to scavenge food
Also we have beer! No seriously archeological evidence suggests beer was the main selling point of settled civilization for a lot of groups, so much so that it was the money until someone in turkey figured out you could use weird metal disks for that instead.
Let’s go back to the beer economy, where your money goes bad eventually if you don’t drink it. Elon Musk would have the largest reserve of rotten beer in human history. He deserves it.
As satisfying as that would be parabley speaking, it'd also ruin our ability to organize commerce and infrastructure at a grander scale than a single region that happens to have a good breadbasket to get the beer crop from.
Fr, capitalism sucks absolute ass and there are better systems we can revolve around.
BUT if it's between capitalism and going back to having to forage, scavenge, fight nature itself on a daily basis and all the other crap all other animals have to deal with...mmm yea I'll stick with capitalism lmao
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That feels like the wrong meme face for the human