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The White House on Tuesday condemned “death to America” chants that surfaced online from a recent rally in Dearborn, Mich., protesting Israel’s war in Gaza. 

Press secretary Karine Jean-Pierre replied, “yes” when asked if President Biden condemns the comments in the chants, which were captured on video by some attendees. 

“Peaceful protests are something that the president has also been very clear that, its important to give folks space to peacefully protest. But any type of violent rhetoric, we are going to denounce,” she said.

Dearborn mayor Abdullah Hammoud (D) has also denounced the chants, sharing in a statement on X that “Dearborn is a city of proud Americans.”

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

This article seems dubious at best, but I always have to laugh when the White House condemns any form of protest. They only condone protests that don’t help the cause they’re protesting for and don’t scare the people in power. Why even bother asking if the people who are being protested at condemn the protest? It’s ridiculous.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago

Of course they are. Even the idea that somebody might be one step closer to calling for a guillotine for the ruling elite is a threat that needs to be watched with all of the money not otherwise blowing up foreign countries. The crackdowns come next.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Putting aside that this is clearly pearl clutching [over a chant made by a handful of people] to distract from the fact that the US government fully supports genocide, let's think about this for a minute. Would it be controversial to say "Death to Nazi Germany"? Surely such a horrendous institution should be killed off, right? The argument could be made that the US government, with all the horrible things it has done (slavery, wars, coups, the main driver of climate change, pollution, genocide, etc), does deserve death. That doesn't mean death to the people of the US (or even the people in the US government), it means death to the institution known as America that is carrying out such horrendous things.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago (1 children)

"Death to America" absolutely means killing US Citizens. This is the the chant at every anti-American rally in Iran, and something ISIS has been chanting for a very long time.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 6 months ago
[–] [email protected] -2 points 6 months ago

I'm too lazy to go find my old comment but it was basically

Biden is just gonna go hide in the Ford plant when he comes for his Michigan rally otherwise Dearborn will eat him alive

[–] [email protected] 49 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (3 children)

Some basic questions to train your media literacy:

How many people, exactly, (or less ideally, roughly,) were doing this? (Article provides no answer.)

How often does this normally occur, esp. when it isn't a trendy topic? (Article provides no answer.)

Any similar events to provide context, perhaps give us clues about what to expect? (Article provides no answer.)

Was this a critical mass, or majority, of those present? (Article provides no answer.)

If you ask basic, perfectly reasonable questions, and then read the article, and see that it answers nothing an interested individual is curious about, you get suspicious about what you're reading. "Oh jeez, a thing happened, we have a thing, it involved people." Very cool, very news.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Also, do you extend this level of courtesy to events that make your political opposition look bad? It's easy to find the energy and motivation when defending your team, but it rarely goes the other way.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago

Yeah it gets much easier after lots of practice. But it's not 100%, which would be ideal.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

It's somewhat frequent in Dearborn, at least once every time Israel/Palestine heats up. Pretty sure it happened at least once at a Talib rally.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 6 months ago (1 children)

There was an article a couple months ago about "people" shouting death threats at Jewish people. It ended up being one dude.

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