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I would raise both hands, so we can include the Democrats as well.
Both are part of the problem. Along with their owners.
One of them is certainly a much larger problem.
My list of "ways conservatives have fucked or tried to fuck me or people I care about" goes all the way back to age 13.
I'm not a cheerleader for democrats, but I think we can make our own thread to bitch about them. Only one party is speedwalking us to the 4th Reich right now.
I'm just tired of being forced to exist in this meat prison, everything after that is just frosting on the suffering cake
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I had a future? News to me.
Meme mentions republicans ruining the country. Know before I even click on it that the comments will all be about "B-but the democrats are just as b-bad!"
Typical Lemmy.
I've scrolled a few pages now and haven't seen a single one of those. Weird. I guess I'll keep going. I wouldn't generalize Lemmy like that though.
There are two possibly three in this thread alone. Stop being intentionally myopic.
What do I raise for the present and the past?
The Republicans have a position for that.
You just lay on your back and pull your ankles over your head.
Everything reminds me of her...
don't forget the past and present
tired of the future being destroyed by capitalists and zionists. sorry, i repeated myself there..
I just want free public transit, affordable housing//rent/food/bills and some free time to actually enjoy being alive, is that too much to ask?
You filthy communist.
-actual nazi magats
Republicans: Yes, you entitled whiny millenial. Also, no one wants to work. Also you are probably a groomer.
Fill your bottle with one hand while working with the other. Don’t bother washing your hands, they’ll return the merchandise you’re mailing out anyway.
/s if you really need it
Things would still be shit if Democrats were in power instead, just a bit less so. It's not like everything was rosy under the very recent Biden administration. The two party duopoly needs to be dismantled and it should be a matter of priority for Americans.
Tell all the American citizens and legal residents that are being abducted and deported without due process that Democrats would only be a bit better.
A bit?
Oh I must have missed when Biden sold off public lands, sent masked thugs all over the country to lock up American citizens and anyone with a darker complexion away in concentration camps, gutted consumer protection, corporate oversight, environmental oversight, and every other agency that works for the people and not him, fired everyone in government not loyal to him, and sold of our national secrets to Russia. Must I go on because I have a whole notepad dedicated to keeping track of this shit. You cannot in good faith argue what you're arguing. You're just further pushing the Russian narrative meant to keep us so divided we can't progress. The Dems are by no means perfect but it's like comparing an apple with a few brown spots to a truck tire. I'd rather eat the apple.
I had one of these running "is it both sides?" notes during the first term and my bullet points all seems so quaint now. "Gutting the state department and straining relationships with allies, praising dictators, threatening the press" hahaha..haaa fml
I'm tired of the future being destroyed by billionaires.
Who just so happen to wholeheartedly support the Republican agenda in the US, with the exception of Gates.
You don’t make billions by supporting fair wages, labor unions, health and safety regulations, affordable and accessible healthcare, social programs, socialized infrastructure, and higher taxes on the wealthy.
To be fair, there are plenty of billionaires backing the dems too, they're just a bit more subtle about their intentions, but they are not pioneers of the working class.
Of course the dems getting in in 2024 mightve slowed the roll of fascism, but it would've just delayed it rather than solved any of the underlying issues. With the exception of some truly progressive members of the party, the dems are basically just there to uphold the status quo.
Most of the billionaires that back the republicans also back the democrats, and the democrats also have their fair share of billionaires funding/controlling their candidates all their own. It is a uni-party system that puts on a kabuki show of 'right vs left' for their entertainment. Stop buying tickets for it!
Yes exactly!!
I understand the frustration around those saying the parties are the same, I really do, because in the short term, the chaos of the Trump administration would not be happening if Kamala were to get in, but I'm personally extremely frustrated by people putting the dems/kamala on a pedestal as if they were going to do anything to actually help people.
It's an oligarchy through and through. Kamala wouldve prevented a lot of the mass deportation, but she wouldn't have prevented the wars across the world, and she would've done very little to close the wealth gap between rich and poor.
The only thing that'll cause real change is for the working class to finally realize that the billionaires are our real enemy and there are a lot more of us than there are of them.
How about tired of the uni-party system! We need real change, politicians who care about the workers, not corporations and their oligarchs.
Right on, no argument here.
Republicans and Democrats*
Which is worse, the person who says they want to hurt you and then does it, or the person who says they want to help you and then doesn't? Progressivism is still a beneficial ideal, and some Democrats fight for it, while others pay lip-service because they will say anything to be elected. But Conservativism is a plague upon humanity, leeching resources and power to feed those willing to harm others to get it.
So yeah, you can blame the mostly corrupt "good guys" along with the fundamentally selfish "bad guys," but that doesn't make them equivalent sides.
Dems deliver, but it's always "n n not good enough" for certain people.
Inb4 replies: The Dems need all 3 houses to pass anything. They've had that for, drumroll please, 4 years of the last 24 years. That's 2 years under Obama and 2 under Biden. Go back further to include Bill Clinton and it's 6 years of the last 32 years. Go further and it's 6 years of the last 44 years. And you wonder why progress is slow?
Come on everybody. Pointing out that the Democrats are also failing us in different ways is NOT bOtH siDEz!!
Definitely
Ignoring the problems with democrats and only focusing on just how terrible republicans are will only lead back to where we are right now
It's a vicious cycle
Yes it is because the degree of damage caused are different orders of magnitude.
Two accomplices are responsible for the damage, one does the deed, the other intentionally puts up ineffective resistance to those deeds. Our legal system has a term for this: accessory to the crime. It carries significant penalties for a reaaon.
~~Republican and and Democrats*~~
Humans
- conservatives
The letter doesn't matter, their policy positions do