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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

There seems to be an incredibly large intersection between sociopathic dipshits and failure to understand the basics of GDPR.

"Email address is not PII" is such a deep level of not getting it it's indistinguishable from satire.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

i wonder why that coincidence keeps happening over and over

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

they did in fact reach at least 20,000 users, and to celebrate they set up a business entity in Germany (they are currently US based), in order to start a tiny little t-shirt printing company. And their goal was to print 20,000 t-shirts to give out, FOR FREE, to their first 20,000 users (with users paying only shipping costs). But I cannot stress enough, they did not just spend money on 20,000 tshirts to give out, they set up a whole new business entity in Germany to run their own t-shirt printing operation, with its own building and warehouse and employee(s? I get the sense it's one guy but I don't know). And this cost them 1/3 of their $670k funding round. One, fucking, third. For t-shirts. Did I mention that the t-shirts don't even have the Kagi name on them? Just the Kagi dog mascot

0% interest rate behavior

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (13 children)

I literally learnt about Kagi like a week ago from a Cory Doctorow's post. I was like oh, cool, someone there to fight google.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I KNOW RIGHT

they just got THE BEST word of mouth

and then Vlad just ...

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Not even Google ever printed 20k tshirts to give away for free.

Thats demonstrably false. I used to work for a merch company on the Google account and 20k custom printed Google t-shirts to give away at some event is a once every one or two months kind of order.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I was delighted to find a sci-fi story hidden between pages full of AI shilling on the website, and then disappointed because it's not even funny-bad.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Wait whats this about AI? Can anyone explain? I just started the free trial because i was tired of shitty google results, are they literally doing the same thing now?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

Depends what you mean by "the same thing"

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

apparently so, I'm said to say

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

Vader voice: noooooooooo

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)

That he called the blog post 'an incredible amount of research' is quite odd. Either it is a failed attempt at sucking up, or a sign Vlad has a very bad idea of what research is.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

It's incredible because the blogger based their beliefs off of evidence and reality instead of markov chains and hallucinations.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

incredible for him, presumably

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (5 children)

The whole internet loves Kagi

Lol no

Also Kagi is a glorified Google front end.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

This is a reference to the milkshake duck tweet

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yup. Last time I checked, you paid money to get the exact same results. Brilliant.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

Ya but they are in a different order

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I'd say he's a milquetoast narcissist at best, his boilerplate deflectons were totally hinged the whole time.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah this is a big overreaction to someone defending their life's work. I see nothing wrong here. The writer's immediate and thorough disinterest in discussion doesn't make the owner wrong to explain, and to call it mansplaining when you say you won't even read it?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

this sorta shit is why the pinned comment. bye now.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Repeated messaging or communication when the person has been asked multiple times to stop communicating is harassment, they aren't on some public channel, it's a direct message

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

running through the sales playbook big time over a post with no readers

and now the original blog post, which had almost no readers, is front page on HN as I write this, and (in between the sociopath apologetics) people are noticing he's bizarre on privacy, GDPR and AI obsession ...

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

AI obsession

To be fair, of all the problems with that CEO, this one I fail to see

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It isn't in this post, but it's in the post this one is about. Kagi started as an AI company, pivoted to the search engine, and it's still trying to put AI into everything.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

Dare I say... womp womp?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Maybe it'll stop being evangelized so heavily in every single search engine thread now, honestly just manipulative behavior from the CEO

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

Not immediately, I guess. But it's sad to see that good things don't just happen themselves

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I knew something was fucky about that cultish service.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah I had a weirdass email exchange with that same guy that pushed me away from Kagi forever. It was one of those "borderline technically honest but still blatantly dodging and obfuscating" type situations.

I shared a screenshot once, but got nothing but defense for the guys dodgy behavior, so I've been quiet about it, so this feels pretty validating that my gut feelings were right.

I think a lot of people get cultish about it because they're paying a subscription for it, so they have to believe it's good.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (4 children)

yeah, they've fostered an audience of unhinged stans

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I don't want to enagage with you on this while I keep engaging with you.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't know if "no, I'm not interested" counts as engagement...

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The OP of that thread seems like the only one in the wrong here. The founder of the company they were criticizing reached out to them directly to clarify some misunderstandings and they instantly took a curt, defensive attitude in their replies. Replying to every email someone sends and rage baiting them doesn't exactly read: "I don't want to talk to you anymore."

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (4 children)
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