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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.zip/post/13485819

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/14192146

A selection of YouTube viewers have recently noticed there's a little something different with the look of the website.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

I use browser add ons to have the comments moved the right panel. I enjoy reading comments during the video and I don't want to have to scroll away from the video to read them. This design just makes sense to me.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 6 months ago
[–] [email protected] 16 points 6 months ago

It's pointless to be on any platform in control of someone like this. Enshitification will come one day no matter what happens.

It's open source and self hosted, or barbarism.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

laughs in pipepipe

[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 months ago

This is a very oniony title, and an oniony sentiment. Case in point.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 months ago

“To test new ways to improve the experience.”

Read:

“To test new ways to juice engagement and watch time. We are seeing if this leads to further addiction.”

[–] [email protected] 22 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

In some ways it's not terrible. Putting chat to the side makes sense. What I can't stand is polluting the viewing area with the top edge of the recommended videos, and not even the whole frame of the preview. It feels like the page isn't scrolled completely up or down and it's super distracting. Thankfully it's easy blocked with ublock.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

It’s not too bad, looks like the Twitch interface of having chat/comments be on the side. That said having to scroll through videos horizontally seems like a pain compared to scrolling through them vertically.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago

I dislike the description not being under the video.

[–] [email protected] 57 points 6 months ago (5 children)

YouTube keeps making things worse.

A few months ago they required that you have a watch history to display the homepage.

This week they're showing up next popups even when you have autoplay turned off.

Using an Apple TV I probably watch more YouTube than any other platform and was given a gift of a premium subscription. It removed all ads, gave me YouTube music, but the shitty experiments continue and there's no way to tell YouTube to sod off.

I've yet to find an alternative, but I'm looking..

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

Playeur has a few decent creators, but we could always encourage more to cross post.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 6 months ago (2 children)

A few months ago they required that you have a watch history to display the homepage.

I'm actually glad for this change. I hated the random junk they always suggest on my homepage. I spent ages clicking on the menu on each video and selecting "don't recommend this channel." It took a few years, but I actually got a clean, empty homepage. Then they changed their website and all the videos came back. I had to start over, cleaning out my feed again.

Now with this new change, my homepage is always clear. Thanks, YouTube!

For the record, I only watch my subscriptions. If I learn about a new channel, it's through another site/person recommending it. I don't let YouTube recommend me stuff to watch. And I definitely don't watch YouTube Shorts or whatever they call their vertical video nonsense.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

You might want to look in to FreeTube if you 'only' watch subscriptions. It currently only does subscriptions and play lists, and doesn't use a google account, or any account if you want.

You'd have a better experience than the browser 'and' google doesn't get the metadata on what you're subscribed to and watch. Win-win.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago

Same. I love it. I go to YouTube home page, see nothing, and then go on doing what I was going to do anyway. It is a nice update.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I just use NewPipe. It gets rid of all the garbage.

Though, you say you use an Apple TV, so I'm guessing you have an iPhone. In that case, you're kind SOL until Apple allows side-loading.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago

You’re out of luck for Apple TV, but not for iOS. I uninstalled YouTube from my phone and use Orion browser as my default now. It lets you install extensions from the Firefox or Chrome store, so I have ublock origin installed on my phone now and YouTube ads are gone.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago

On Android TV I'm using SmartTube with Sponsor Block.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago
[–] [email protected] 16 points 6 months ago

Judging by the seemingly overwhelmingly negative response, we don’t see YouTube moving forward with this design. But tell us what you think. Let us know in the comments below.

This is a misunderstanding of how google works I think.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

Invidious, bruh.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 months ago (1 children)

It's okay, as long as you don't want to read the comments or the video description

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago (1 children)

So, how long until they delete the comment section outright?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (2 children)

What even is the point of the comments section?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago

Driving engagement. They don't care if it's full of trolls or spambots. As long as it entices users to engage on their platform, it's a plus in their books

[–] [email protected] 16 points 6 months ago

Great way to communicate directly with the person who posted the video. Also a good way to answer questions when viewing educational content (like cooking shows).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

just stop using youtube. if you dont, youre just encouraging them to keep on doin what theyre doin

[–] [email protected] 81 points 6 months ago (5 children)

What a strange title. Immediately biases the reader before any actual information is given about the change

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

Just give me a grid of videos. No shorts, no games, no BS. Just videos.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

Yeah well. So far enshittification hasn't stopped yet. It's perfectly reasonable to assume a change is for the worse.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

No trust me, it is an accurate title. I thought I was using some shit site hosting YouTube videos at first. It's atrocious.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago

I thought it was making fun of people for always initially hating on UI redesigns.

Same thing with logo changes

[–] [email protected] 77 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Immediately biases the reader before any actual information is given about the change

As someone who has the "pleasure" to be selected as beta tester for YouTube changes all the time, I fully agree with the headline because I also have immediate bias when they change something. Every single time it has been awful and more often than not I get outright broken changes which is why I have a user agent changer installed to switch to an ancient Edge user agent when affected because YT's legacy UI often doesn't get the same changes.

Also, I'm a YT Premium subscriber. I'm not paying to be a beta tester.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Maybe by setting the expectation that the user will hate the update, when it becomes available to everyone it won’t be as bad as expected and thus more easily accepted.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

Nah they'll still hate the update and then call the journalist a shill for trying to put a positive spin on the change.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 6 months ago (2 children)

IDK, seems like a lot of extra work when they could just not make a dogshit UI in the first place.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Whatever take the attention away from the unskippable 30 second ads!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Do you really get those? I don't on PC or Android.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

On my iPhone I do. I sometimes like those alternative websites, but they rarely work consistently. And I’m too lazy to copy and paste the link too.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

It's available, but you can't use extensions, so ads are rampant

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Does Firefox block YouTube ads in the app? If so, maybe I just need to delete the app…

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I use Firefox on android with YouTube, and I made FF th default to play YouTube videos. I might not even have YouTube app installed, I forget what I did with it.

I just got sick of ads and took action to not see them anymore

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

I assumed it had adds, but now that you mention it, I don’t think it does. I’m gonna delete the app and see how that life is.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 6 months ago

It's Google -- somehow they wrote the book on late 90s UI excellence and then proceeded to eat the book.

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