Just a few bad orchards..
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That'll teach him!
But what they won't tell you, it was a black sandwich, so the cops feel okay about it
Cops hate Rye & Pumpernickel
We need a system where as soon as a cop draws his gun, the video camera starts recording
How about a system where cops face the same justice as the people they murder.
This one wasn't wearing a camera. How that could be the case in 2020 is beyond me. I just assumed they all have 'em now.
We need a system where they can't turn it off by themselves. Let them call someone to remotely to request it off for a specific period of time if they're taking a break. "Hey, taking lunch, can you pause it for an hour?" This is easily solvable, but police accountability is not a problem that the police want to solve.
The NYTimes Daily podcast did a recent piece on why bodycams haven’t had as big of an impact and it sounds like a big part of the problem is that even if video is recorded the police retain custody so it’s super easy for them to bury the footage. I don’t know why it’s not standard operating procedure for an unrelated body be the ones to maintain custody of the bodycam footage.
Because they don't want to be held accountable, they just want to keep getting away with murder and assault
Cop, "Your Honor, the sandwich is a known lethal weapon, given its track record of choking hazard. Just last week, Joey down at the station, was working OT and eating his favorite meatball sub. That could have been the last time I saw Joey... So, when I saw the sandwich, I immediately recognized the danger and risked my life to control the situation."
The sandwiches were subs, they could have surfaced and started launching nuclear missiles at any moment.
"He had multiple sandwiches so he was clearly a threat to others as well as to himself. I'm so grateful that I was there to prevent anyone else from getting hurt."
Clear intent for distribution. And where did he get those keys? From Al-queda? Possibly. There's no way to know at the time. It was all very suspicious.
And when I pulled out my gun and pointed it at him, he started running. Clearly he had a guilty conscience, why else would you run?
I'm sure the NRA will be putting a lot of resources to help get the officer convicted since Goodson had a license to carry. /s
I really hope the day comes soon where police face the same suffering they put others.
The law will never do it, gotta take ghandis advice here and be the change you want to see.
I think I'm going to take Joey's advice and beat on the brat with a baseball bat.
Oh yeah.
Alright.
A federal judge has paused the lawsuit against Meade and Franklin County until after the criminal case. The officer had argued that simultaneously defending himself in both cases would put him in a no-win situation.
It seems a “no-win situation” is being Black while bringing sandwiches to Grandma’s house.
simultaneously defending himself in both cases would put him in a no-win situation.
What is that even supposed to mean? He has to prove that his actions where justified. How is his a no-win situation? Is his plan to first argue that he's innocent because he wasn't trained correctly and acted out of fear and then claim in the second case that he actually received proper training?
Civil cases have a lower standard of evidence, and fifth amendment protection is weaker. Defendants can end up in a situation where they have to say something in a civil trial that then kills their defense in the criminal trial.
On the flip side, if the criminal trial gets a conviction, then the civil trial is a lot easier.
Defendants can end up in a situation where they have to say something in a civil trial that then kills their defense in the criminal trial.
What could be example of something like this in this case?
Seems to me like it would make more sense to want the cases to go simultaneously since the civil case can use any evidence and admissions from the criminal case.
If they are tried at the same time, there is a chence that would not work because of deadlines to submit evidence.
I have no idea what that argument is supposed to be.
I can understand why the deputy did what they did.
You never know when a sandwich could go off.
That's what best by dates are for!
That sandwich might have had something spicier than mayonnaise. That’s dangerous as fuck, plus the guy was aggressively running away. How could you not defend yourself
We really need better laws regulating mustard in this country.
Damn liberals trying to take our horseradish away
As per EU regulations, horseradish is not a mustard.
Goddam USA is a scary place.
Yeah, if you're black and armed with a sandwich. Fuck cops
And people wonder why I like staying home
Kids don't go outside anymore!
I remember the guy that got shot by a cop for eating ice-cream in his apartment. Can't even stay home.
Goodson did not heed warnings to stop and drop his weapon
Does she mean the sandwich or the keys?
Keys.
According to the DHS.
Wasting time asking dangerous clarifying questions like that is what gets you shot.
Meade was not wearing a body camera at the time, so there is no video evidence of the shooting.
Straight. To. Jail.
The law needs to be if they don't have their bodycam on and operating, they aren't a cop at that moment. Anything they do without it recording is their actions as an individual citizen and therefore not protected as the actions of a law enforcement official. Of course there is a litany of other reforms which need to happen as well, but I feel like this would be a simple but major one.