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[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Owl is back on the menu boys!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago

ITT: the difference between conservationists and "conservationists"

[–] [email protected] 18 points 7 months ago
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[–] [email protected] 15 points 7 months ago (1 children)

So there’s barn owls and barred owls? Who is coming up with these names?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

Scientists have a long seemingly treasured history of trolling everything with their naming of stuff. Not a scientist, so I can't confirm. But from the outside it sure looks like they have a lot of fun with it.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 7 months ago

"Conserve this."

Gunshot

[–] [email protected] 51 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Conservationists: Oh boy, here I go killing again!

[–] [email protected] 36 points 7 months ago (2 children)

To be fair that's a very important part

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Yeah. Actual conservationists tend to be pretty good shots.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Up until people start asking how you tell the endangered owls from the invasive owls while holding two dead owls

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Kill enough until they're both endangered, then it'll be easy

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

That's thinking with patriotism!

[–] [email protected] 14 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I don't know what you think hunters are doing, just casually shooting every flying thing lol

[–] [email protected] 29 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Rule one of hunting is to identify your target

At least statistically if you shot a bunch of random owls you're most likely to have shot all invasive owls..

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

If there's one thing I know about the hunting community, it's how much they love rules

[–] [email protected] 21 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Are they an invasive species?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

They only lived east of the Great Plains until we started building cities and planting trees, as they need high, safe perches for nesting and sleeping. When humans created that for them, they expanded westward all the way to California and started competing with (and killing) other species of owl.

So, yes.

[–] [email protected] 57 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Unfortunately so. They are an Eastern US species that has been moving ever westward. And they are, in bird law terms, 'huge dicks'. They've been systematically kicking Spotted Owls out of their traditional roosting spots for about a decade now. Spotted Owls are pushovers, so they've been losing breeding ground. And barred owls are not just dicks to other birds, they don't like humans much either.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Were they introduced to the west by humans? If this migration is occurring without human intervention this is just evolution doing its thing.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It's going to be hard to remove human influence on this equation considering almost everywhere the human influence is present.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Agreed, I think a lot of conservationism can even go too far in removing or preventing natural adaptation to the human presence. I was mostly referring to cases where humans can transport species between local ecosystems in a way that wouldn't occur otherwise, which can result in an environmental imbalance that doesn't always fix itself since such changes in range don't usually occur naturally on a scale as large as with, say, the introduction of the brown marmorated stinkbug into North America from Asia.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Have we considered that that's their secret to success?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago

Being dicks sure worked for out well for humans.

Wait a second, humans are driving themselves extinct by emitting too much carbon

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago

Something something something. The