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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

USA has the Espionage Act. A violation of this law can be punishable by death, and whistleblowers and journalists have been targeted under this law in the past.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

Roy Cohn, the guy who mentored Trump and was McCarthy's second AND had his own Lavender Scare (while he himself was gay) got his claim to fame when he sent a Jewish couple to death over this exact thing

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Does anyone else see a suspicious disconnect here? The actual legislation cited is a prohibition about "any intelligence cooperation with the Mossad". And what's more, this complaint is coming from Euronews, a news agency which is likely hostile to the regime. Whatever you think about the regime, I am pretty sure that cooperation with the enemy in wartime is maximally punishable in any country.

So my takeaway when I read this piece was that it sounded like a fox complaining that teeth and claws are forbidden in the chicken coop.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Funny how you equate the Iranian regime with chickens. You know, yhay same regime that murders people slowly by slowly Hanging them from a crane, just and only just because they loved the wrong person. I believe the handmaid's tale has a good example scene of this.

Yes, Israel is committing a genocide, USA is evil, but do you really want to apologize for yet another evil, then?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 week ago

I believe the handmaid’s tale

No, that's a work of fiction

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago

Funny how the west is friends with saudis which is an as bloody regime

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Yeah, this is why I'm not on Iran's side.

I still want them to hurt Israel as much as possible. My heart goes out to the innocent people of Iran.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

Ukraine also does this, by the way, are you going to assert that you're not on Ukraine's side?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

What about iranians who don't want to get murdered by israel

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

My heart goes out to the innocent people of Iran.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (6 children)

Israel attacks Iran. Iran which was tolerable to media a few months ago is now the root of all evil.

Talk of manufacturing consent in an unprovoked attack on another country. The scrambling to justify these attacks on Iran is real interesting.

See you tomorrow and the next day for an Iran did this bad thing story. Keep drip feeding that narrative.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

This is textbook manufacturing consent. Maybe these people could benefit from a little history on how these people got into power, and what helps keep them in power. Big surprise, the same people that loves to bring up how terrible they are as they attack them.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I don't want to be mean but did you live under a rock in 2022-2023?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I said a few months ago. I'm pretty sure 24+ months doesn't fall under the categorisation of "a few". Iran has been barely touched upon for years, and now the headlines are rolling about how horrible they are now there is a war to justify.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It has been touched upon for years, then fell off the news wagon because of other events.

The attacks are unjustified, but this narrative of "the media had no problem with Iran" when again, in the past years, executions and state violence carried out by Iran have been reported, is false.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I didn't say no problem, I said tolerable. You really need to read the dictionary and understand words. You cannot just interpret things how you feel, rather than what the words mean.

Did you not see how quick policy and media narratives switch. Recently they tried to rehabilitate the Syrian leader, who's group was allied to American enemies, and all of a sudden, he wasn't that bad, let's drop sanctions.

You have to realise that, what is good and bad, and what the media tells you is good and bad are two different things. You have to critically challenge the narratives you're fed.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

Mate, I don't rely on mainstream media to tell me what to think about Iran. I have in-laws there. My partner regularly talks to them.

Iran was always shite and during the protests, the media said as much. When they executed protestors, It got reported upon. There was never a time in which Iran was like anywhere close tolerable. Did UK media not pounce on the Shahed drones to Russia? Come on, mate.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago

Iran which was tolerable to media a few months ago

Why are people upvoting you when you're wrong?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago

Iran which was tolerable to media a few months ago

In what parallel reality do you live in ? It has been classified as one of the worse country for press freedom since years by RSF, they shutdown internet when things get out of hand and banned a lot of social medias.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

When was Iran tolerable? They're still as much of a fucked up theocracy with a terrible record on human rights as they've been since the revolution.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 week ago

And they're less terrible than any country that is supporting Israel's Holocaust in Gaza.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I said tolerable to the media. Been barely discussed in UK media until Israel attacked them, now they're scrambling to justify it based on how bad Iran is...

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm not in the UK, but I recall Iran being in the media a lot in China and the US. Back when Trump assassinated one of their generals during his first term, the recurring abductions and rapes of women and young girls by the morality police that sparked nationwide protests, the arms they are providing for Russia in their invasion of Ukraine, and now Israel's unprovoked attack on Iranian infrastructure and citizens.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

What do you expect iran to do want the whole west is imposing severe sanctions harming regular citizens. Iran as no choice but to work with russia. Iran could have been an neutral country if americans, israelis and britosh didn't support the shah coup

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I expect them to stop harming their own civilians, too.

We don't need to cheer on an oppressive, totalitarian regime just because they're at odds with another oppressive, totalitarian regime.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 week ago

Funny, I've been saying this for the last three years and liberals have been telling me that that makes me a tankie Putin simp.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I am cheering iran right to self defence not the regime harming their own civilians.

Do you condemn israel starting the war and killing civilians ?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yes I condemn Israel, this isn't an either/or type of situation. Both countries are shitty.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 week ago

Ukraine is also pretty shitty, but no one seems to have any problem understanding why people would cheer them on when they get attacked.

Funny how liberals can only extend that privilege to white countries

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Yeah let's not forget who they are, the people in power in Iran. Worst scum on earth.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 week ago

Not the worst scum, that honour goes to the leadership of Israel and the Western leaders supporting their genocide.

And if you think Iran is the only country that executes people who send information to the enemy, you need to crack a history book

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

As bad as israeli and united snake leaders

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Whataboutism is for blaming USA when the Russians have done something bad, not the iranians or Israelis 🤷🏼‍♀️.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

They is no whataboutism. You just have double standard

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Is it normal to allow people to send military information to your enemy?

I'm not a huge fan of either of the two belligerent, but this is not exactly an unreasonable position to take. And they are at least putting reporters on notice.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago

I mean if they really just wanted to make sure military information doesn't reach Israel they wouldn't impose the death penalty; the excessive punishment makes it clear this is going to be used to suppress unrelated dissent.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

If it's a dictatorship I'd say yes because they are (also) the enemy.

I'm also against the death penalty in general, but especially for scaring your own citizens into obedience.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 week ago

Yeah, apparently murder is supposed to be used for scaring foreign citizens into obedience, based on what liberals say

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

it's a shame that when scum fights scum there are so many innocent civilians who will suffer. there are no good guys in this. A little bully with rich parents picked a fight with a big bully and everything that can come out of this will suck.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 week ago

there are no good guys in this.

There were no "good guys" in World War 2 either, and yet you don't see people going around squealing "both sides were scum!" At anyone who supported the allied