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[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago (8 children)

Importing workers to make 16.84/hr. Just what American is going to accept that kind of wage when the boss is getting grants of hundreds of thousands of dollars?

The immigrant would have to work 11,876 hours to earn the 200k handout that the boss gets for hiring him seasonally for two years. How is this sustainable? Are we all going to be working to subsidize farmers by 100k/year to hire a single foreign farmhand?

Not to mention the program for that grant has only 141 members... it just doesn't make sense.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago

I thought that Covid would have been enough of a trial run for that.

At least in my country it was that. You know, it was Covid, with the highest unemployment rate since quite a long time, and farmers ran nation-wide ads looking for workers. They increased the pay sometimes up to 2-3x. They promised housing in nice hotels. And still, nobody wanted to do the job and that year there was just no strawberries on the shelves.

The only way working as a farm hand makes sense is if:

  • The workers have no decent other option
  • Working on a farm is safer than working at home
  • Money is worth a lot more where they are from, so that the meagre salary they make in the target country is worth multiple times of that back home, so that the €1000-1200 they make over here turn into the equivalent purchasing power of €4000-6000 back home.
[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago

I heard this story during his last administration. Assclowns never learn.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Well yeah. Turns out people who aren't in fear of being deported won't work for a fraction of minimum wage paid under the table.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago (3 children)

I mean, it's not so much the fear of deportation so much as the fact that lower wages go farther in Mexico. Most Mexicans who illegally immigrate do so simply because it makes economic sense. If the wages were so low that it didn't make economic sense to them, then they would simply return to Mexico voluntarily.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago (2 children)

They'll start calling to use prison labor soon enough. Prisons are commercial facilities anyway and could use some cash. And there are more African American in prison proportionally so that's a bonus for MAGA. Police will get their cut for putting more people in prison. That way the new racist slave labor gets established.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago (2 children)

That's definitely the plan, and they'll be using private, for-profit prison companies. One is a facility in Louisiana that has been closed twice due to abuse and torture of inmates, and has been reopened as an ICE facility they've been stashing the students arrested for pro-Palestinian protests there. The Columbia student who just got released was being held there.

They are also building a 30,000 bed facility at Guantanamo Bay. The $250 million dollar contract has been awarded, and it's underway. For context, the average maximum security prison hold 800-1200 people, with the largest in Angola, LA holding about 8400. So this new facility is nearly 4 times larger than the largest prison, which is already several times larger than average. Clearly, they intend to house MANY people there.

It's my belief that they will eventually take the position that if you can't stay actively employed (due to AI, robotics, automation, discrimination, etc.) and require the help of the government to survive, then they will house and feed you in exchange for renting you out as slave labor. That way, they can say they solved the homeless problems, even though all they did was turn them into slaves.

And the MAGA followers will go along with it, happy that the "parasites" are being forced to work. Besides, they've been hoping for slavery to return since 1865. The only legal slavery in America is prison labor, and like MAGA always does, they intend to exploit the shit out of that Amendment.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago

That is already happening at scale

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Question: Are you getting great already?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago

Actually feeling far less great than any time in my fairly long life.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago (2 children)

This is part of the plan. Small farms will be run out of business and then bought for a low price and consolidated by mega farms.

Big Agriculture wants this and lobbies for it to happen.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

What a coincidence that the VP has a financial interest in independent farms going bankrupt.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I definitely believe this, but do you have a source I can point to for others?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Snopes is appalling.

So Vance owns a fraction of a company that owns a fraction of a company that allows fractional ownership of farmland. They can only sell to accredited investors so the headline is false but snopes don't have the balls to admit it.

I'm not saying he has no interest in making farmland cheap, but Tarrif insider knowledge is multiple times more profitable than trying to influence farmland prices through labor costs.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago

Another 80s reboot

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