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[–] [email protected] 54 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

It's both a generational shift and education issue.

I grew up remembering the early days of going online. The only pc at home was shared by family, so I knew early on that covering my tracks (erasing browser history) was important. When Chrome came out and incognito mode became a thing, I instinctively knew that it was just a shortcut for a separate browser profile that does not share the main profiles cookies and history, that it didn't store activities on the local device. I knew that internet providers could still know what I acceded, and so on.

I can't ask for the same kind of awareness for people that grew up with smartphones, proprietary walled gardens and apps with most of the complexities hidden beneath pretty UI.

It's even worse when it comes to the general population - this isn't the 90s where college students and tech minded people made up the internet users, this isn't the early 2000s where people still had to use a desktop PC to access the web, with its components more or less open to tinker.

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[–] [email protected] 110 points 7 months ago (4 children)

I'm just using it to prevent my depraved, shameful porn searches from entering my browser's autocomplete corpus. Learned that one fairly early on.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

No, you mean when you're shopping for presents for your loved ones and you want to keep it a surprise.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 7 months ago (3 children)

typing: 'p...

Autocomplete: "YOU WANTED PORNHUB.COM, RIGHT?"

[–] [email protected] 16 points 7 months ago

even worse, my university website's page starts with portal.*

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Castaneda also noted that the company (Google) will now pay “zero” dollars as part of the settlement after earlier facing a $5 billion penalty.

I can that a win (for Google).

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

This result has so many loop holes it's incredible. You can't read a single sentence without exceptions, unknowns or generosity. Horrible, but Google probably can blackmail the world.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Use Firefox. Sure, a clean session of cookies isn't going to keep you anonymous, but at least you can do it while not being on Google's own browser and also have it collect information on you.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It doesn't matter. Companies have tracked cookielessly for a decade now thanks to Safari.

This is why everyone is OK with giving up cookies. They don't need it. It's a facade.

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[–] [email protected] 184 points 7 months ago (5 children)

Pretty sure it's always been upfront with that it still tracks you? I always thought of it as a "don't store history and cookies locally" thing and nothing more. Maybe I read that disclaimer with more cynicism than most?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago (1 children)

it's always been upfront

The language it uses/used to use was rather ambiguous, especially for less tech savvy people.

Perhaps it wasn't false, but it definitely wasn't upfront.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago (11 children)

What about it is ambiguous or not written for less tech savvy people?

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, most websites do fingerprinting. I doubt Firefox is immune to it either. In fact, it probably makes it worse since there's so few people using it.

https://amiunique.org/fingerprint shows me as being unique in both browsers, and that's without even taking into account IP address which narrows you down to people on your connection anyway. Only a VPN will hide that.

They don't need cookies to track your visits. Yet apparently they still need to ask if you want to share data with 2184 trusted data partners every time you visit without them, so maybe they can pack that the fuck in.

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[–] [email protected] 66 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, it has always been the “don’t log my porn activity” mode. I don’t understand how so many people misinterpret it as some kind of privacy protection mode.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, it has always been the “don’t log my porn activity” mode. I don’t understand how so many people misinterpret it as some kind of privacy protection mode.

Well, also the “log into your accounts on someone else’s machine without storing the account in the browser” mode. Or the “shop for your partner’s gifts without leaving a trail” mode. But yeah, primarily for porn.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 7 months ago

Yeah I feel the same way.

I admit that I know quite a bit about computers and such but I thought everyone knew private mode isn't intended to stop any tracking.

Pretty sure some browsers by default enable extra tracking protections when in private mode but that's just an extra feature.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Do the chromium based browsers like Vivaldi report this information back to Google too?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Isn't it about general tracking data, the internet instead of the browser?

[–] [email protected] 23 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Google should have to clearly communicate to users what they did. Only few will even read and know about this. Rarely anybody will care.

Misbehavior on such a scale should at least be communicated so users can make an informed decision on their continued trust.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The incognito mode start page literally tells you this. I do not know, how this is news.

[–] [email protected] 78 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

The op link hit a paywall for me, this one is working:

https://web.archive.org/web/20240401221646/https://www.wired.com/story/google-chrome-incognito-mode-data-deletion-settlement/

the company will now pay “zero” dollars as part of the settlement after earlier facing a $5 billion penalty.

I guess they would call that a win

[–] [email protected] 13 points 7 months ago

Fuck google

[–] [email protected] 45 points 7 months ago

And they’re allowed to start doing it again in 5 years

block third-party cookies within Incognito mode for five years

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