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Brett Wilkins Jun 16, 2025

Flight-tracking websites showed dozens of Air Force aerial refueling planes departing from military bases in the United States and heading to Europe on Sunday, fueling speculation of direct U.S. involvement in the widening Israeli-Iranian war.

Military-focused news sites reported that around 30 U.S. Air Force KC-135R and KC-46A tankers were identified by flight-tracking software in what The Times of Israelcalled an "unprecedented mass deployment" to Europe.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (9 children)

I didn't call it, but there's nothing quite like a war to distract the population from rampant decline at home.

This one is weird though, Iran is allied with Russia. Israel is allied with the US. Historically, this made sense.

But Trump and Putin playing war together would benefit both of them. It allows Putin to pull out of Ukraine because "Iran provided us much help and they need us now." And it allows Russia to maintain the war economy. It benefits Trump because he wants to play war.

Neither leader would have any actual skin in the game, it's just people's lives that would never contribute in another meaningful way to their power.

I don't like this. This is feeling more 1984 than 1984.

Edit: I like this even worse after I read the specifics of the KC-135R and KC-46A. Each can carry about 200,000 lbs of additional fuel. A single F-15E can hold 13,000 lbs internally. 30 KC-135Rs can refuel an entire F-15E 460 times. Israel has 7 KC-130H (60,000lbs) and 7 Boeing 707s (which is what the KC-135 was based on). This isn't just escalation, this is staging for invasion.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (21 children)

Anyone else get the feeling WW3 has already started but we just haven't realised it yet?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Imagine starting WW3 the weekend after 3% of your population came out to protest for other reasons. Your war weariness debuff will hit 100% in one turn.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (9 children)

I’d just like to take this opportunity to say “fuck you” to all the service people flying these planes, planning the logistics, and otherwise operating at the behest of our sadistic federal government. Sure, the civilian leadership is ultimately at fault here, but y’all are humans with agency. I’m no longer carving out culpability from these goddamn people anymore. Fuck you terrorists. If we escalate yet another war, I’ll plan to spit on you when you arrive back broken and dead. Bring on the downvotes.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Instead of "thank you for your service" I guess we'll have to start saying, "fuck you for your service"

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (9 children)

It’s been decades that our military has been nothing but an imperialist boot. There is no moral ground to stand on in signing up. Work fast food.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

How hard is it to just not kill others?

Apparently really fucking hard for some.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Armchair theory is that the US large platform bombers will be used to credibly threaten repeated bunker buster hits on Fordow nuclear site. This could pressure Iran to surrender its entire nuclear program including that site.

Currently Israel doesn't have the capability by itself to destroy the site but US bombers possibly could.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Maybe they are invading Greenland. Or it is a ruse and they are invading Canada.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

“How to start WW3 in 10 seconds”.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (17 children)

We just want fucking healthcare and affordable housing.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Sorry, best I can do is 2 trillion more for Boeing, Raytheon, Lockheed Martin and the like. They're desperate man, they haven't had a war for like 12 minutes, they need to be fed.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Best the turnip can do is a gold colored overpriced shit phone.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

Not to worry, it's made in china, shipped from china, and then people in detention centers will be forced by ICE to package it for that bonus fascism feel for those that believe it's made in the US and and they're getting a deal on the T-Mobile package that costs almost 2x other providers for the same service.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Flight-tracking websites showed dozens of Air Force aerial refueling planes departing from military bases in the United States and heading to Europe on Sunday, fueling speculation of direct U.S. involvement in the widening Israeli-Iranian war.

Oh good. They're just fueling speculation and not any war machines. ^/s^

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

Air sharks at a smell of a big conflict in the ME.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Are people surprised? Republicans are war hawks even more so than the Libs.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

But only against countries that pose no threat to them i.e. they are chickenhawks. At least Biden could do the bare minimum to help Ukraine.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

They are jingoists, and jingoists are no different than schoolyard bullies who want to appear tough so they loudly proclaim how tough and big they are, which includes an occasional show of force against those they believe won't/can't defend themselves to reinforce their image of being the biggest Tough Guy™ around.

If they win, they win. If they lose, it's because they decided it wasn't worth their time and left willingly, not because they lost.

This country has always been stuck up its own ass.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (2 children)

You'd be surprised. There are quite a few on lemmy that still do the both sides are the same. Oddly trying to do anything to form a new progressive is also something they don't seem interested in either.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yeah when liberals kill a wedding party or hospital at least they act sad.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Oddly trying to do anything to form a new progressive is also something they don’t seem interested in either.

Its okay to not like liberals, but that part of my original comment is important.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I read that and it made me sad because that will literally never happen in my potential grandchildren’s lifetimes

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Same, but

A society grows great when old men plant trees in whose shade they know they shall never sit.

We still need to get the ball rolling. The institutions and networks we need will take a lot of time to build. I know a lot of our fellow lefties don't want to interact with anything government, but doing so with the goals of harm reduction gives us space to lay the roots and set up the next generation for success. If we are serious about things we need follow ups for our protests and making the best efforts we can in our sub-ideal situations.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I would rather build a real, actual house for people than a system of oppression built on violence.

And before you say “habitat for humanity Jimmy Carter “ it’s the same catty bureaucracy I’ve found everywhere.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I would rather build a real, actual house for people than a system of oppression built on violence.

And that does not happen overnight, if you don't follow up protests, and some voting.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

Bitch I’ve been voting for a quarter fucking century.

I protested the fucking Iraq war II and it still fucking happened.

Keep telling me this bullshit actually works like I’m some fucking eighteen year old.

Democracy is broken

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Biden ran on getting back into the deal with Iran, then insisted that Iran must completely return to fulfilling their side of the deal before we would consider returning to ours.

Both sides are not the same but Biden shouldn't be let off the hook for his sudden flip on this issue.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Its one thing to be unhappy with the democrats. Its another (and self defeating) to not want to expand the progressive wing inside of it (or to form a new party and go for local elections) and to not stall alt right republicans everywhere else.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

Absolutely, I just don't think it actually helps Democrats in the long run to pave over their often deep flaws. If we were harder on Democrats 30 years ago, we probably wouldn't have Trump today.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Watching https://globe.adsbexchange.com/ and filtering by military-only is fun.

C17s flying back and forth between Ramstein and Israel for a couple hours already (not sure how many normally do, tbf. could be normal)

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Cool website. I'm not seeing shit for military flights in the ME. I wonder if they all went dark or if I am not filtering correctly.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

it's not a lot, but quite a constant flow (mainly C17) for at least a couple hours.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (3 children)

If anyone has good reasons to think otherwise, my anxiety needs something to believe in rn

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Surprise attack on Ukraine?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

you are making it worse somehow (But I did laugh at the absurdity of it all, so thank you)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Lol same reaction. I don't think it's too absurd, sadly 😔

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

Chuckle... Oh shit!

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago (11 children)

God I hate Republicans.

Trump is absolute garbage on every single scale and stat, but it's the republican voters who got us here. Fuck every republican voter.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Hate is not going to get you anywhere.

Yes some of them voted for him but a bunch of them didn’t.

Stop being defeatist.. inform yourself.. look at the numbers. Look at the evidence. Get active.

If you’ve wondered why everything looks like a coup since he got in, perhaps it is because it is one.

https://lemmy.world/post/31401705

https://youtu.be/AaKFx5rxdmA

https://smartelections.us/

https://electiontruthalliance.org/

Edit: the upvote/downvote ratio on a comment like this shows how rapidly Lemmy is turning into Reddit. Nobody cares about the data, if you remotely sound like defending the GOP down the chute you go.

It’s your loss America. I’ll sleep fine as long as we don’t have electronic voting systems here.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (5 children)

It's not that we don't agree with you, it's that your kinda acting like a dick. Change your tone and you might get a better reception.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

And leading with "hate is not going to get you anywhere" and following it with more blame instead of action.

Find your local mutual aid group. Volunteer. Protest. Get involved.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

Spite can be a powerful motivator.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

Yup, that's right. The scene in GTA San Andreas there has become a viral meme to express... well... "ah shit, here we go again."

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