We can take that money straight out of elons pocket
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Final Viktory.
Well, good. As an American it's shameful that our conservatives here have stalled further contribution from the US, but I'm glad the EU stepped up.
Yeah, I pray for Biden, to win, against Trump soon. USA needs to know, if Putin wins, China could invade Taiwan. And so on. In the brighter side, we now have a stronger EU then before.. Peace.
Nice! Another fat л for putin
....pi?
Cyrillic has л from λ and п from π
Aid or another fat contribution to the already brim full pockets of war profiteers?
Aid to keep their economy afloat.
Until Thursday morning, Viktor Orbán had been single-handedly blocking the release of fresh money for Kyiv, despite repeated pleas from the war-torn nation, which needs $37.3 billion, or €34.45 billion, in Western donations to keep its economy running in 2024 and sustain essential services such as healthcare, education, social protection and pensions.
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Unfortunately, it's pretty difficult to do one without the other. Especially if the profiteers are capable of making big donations to political parties.
That's right putie. Orban is EU's bitch now.
I doubt that he can be trusted to be anybody bitch really. He's more likely going to be friends with who even he has most power with.
I'm curious how they managed to persuade him. I hope it's not by releasing of blocked funds so he can keep lining his pockets.
They threatened taking away Hungary’s voting power in EU altogether . Apparently there is a process to do that.
News outlet are being extremely vague about Orban's motives, but it's clear that no funds have been unfrozen. By the looks of it, it seems Hungary received no grants at all and just changed its mind out of the goodness of her heart, which is weird.
From DW
"From what we are hearing from our sources, they made it very clear to Viktor Orban that he is standing all alone in the EU, blocking this essential aid for Ukraine," she said, adding that following the message it became clear Orban would finally say yes and so the EU leaders sat together to finalize the deal.
This makes me wonder if anything went on behind those closed doors. We know that yesterday Orban met with Meloni, who according to euronews
[Meloni] has fashioned herself as the most dexterous mediator between Budapest and Brussels. Meloni and Orbán held bilateral talks on Wednesday evening in anticipation of the high-stakes meeting.
All that's left to hope is that Meloni and other EU leaders succesfully managed to scare off Hungary and that no backroom deals went on.
Hungary originally said they would undo the veto if they agreed to review the funding every year. Which EU accepted in the new draft.
Correct, but that review process won't have any votes on it, meaning it also won't be possible for Hungary (or anyone else) to veto it. Doesn't seem like that great of an accomplishment on Hungary's side.
I think it’s mostly for show. All the posturing is for his domestic voters, since most of his political message is being anti EU. If he can make a big stink in Brussels and carry off a token victory that’s a decent propaganda tool. I’m fairly sure he isn’t actually so stupid as to risk losing the EU billions going to him and his friends.
I think it's likely this. What probably also happened, was some quiet discussions in offices along the lines of "if you throw your toys out of the pram, it will be the last time, and you may not get the toys back"
There have been numerous reports about EU officials/MPs considering stripping Hungary of its voting rights preceding this. So most likely Orban as just beenade aware that there's a limit to which degree he can block stuff while still being allowed to play ball.
Possible. I'd love it if they actually went through with the article 7 threats, but until then using said threat to have Orban sit down is the next best thing.
I believe it was the threat of sanctions if he didn't agree.
I guess you're referring to this
I wouldn't be surprised if that confidential document outlining the sanctions was "accidentally" "leaked" on purpose to increase the pressure on him.
So happy to read this. Reviews will not include a further vote / veto either so it will definitely all be delivered.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
There had been fears that Hungary's Prime Minister Viktor Orban would block the aid package as he had done already at a European summit last December.
News of the agreement was announced less than two hours after the summit started, surprising many observers who had expected talks to go on much longer due to the depth of disagreement between Mr Orban and the other EU leaders.
Mr Orban had been pushing for a yearly vote on the package, but this could have left the deal exposed to an annual veto threat from Hungary.
Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky said he was "grateful" to EU leaders, highlighting that the decision was taken by all 27 heads of state.
He stressed that Ukraine was resisting Russia, for everyone - blocking Vladimir Putin's attempt to challenge the world order by force.
The EU's aid package is a little more of the stability Ukraine needs, and will help it help pay pensions and salaries and to keep the heating on over the next four years.
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Nice.