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Twitter, now X, was once a useful site for breaking news. The Baltimore bridge collapse shows those days are long gone.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

I first saw it on YouTube when a local TV station posted the raw video.

I wasn't looking at any other media at the time.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The only reason I had a Twitter account was because there was an emergency event in my local area and Twitter was the one place I could get information about it right now. There were locals sharing what they knew, emergency services telling people what measures needed to be taken where, and journalists on the ground saying what they knew in real time. It was invaluable.

When I left Twitter, that ability to follow breaking news as it happens was the thing I was afraid I'd miss out on most. It's bittersweet to find out that I didn't need to worry about that after all.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Tbf, I saw the early videos coming from X (and I'm not on X)

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The sudden influx of random racists on a local space after a tragedy is cliche at this point. They are just waiting in the wings to spread some nonsense and pretend to be from there.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is it that or is it just bots and trolls? IF they are real people, I'm glad they have a platform to be on so they're recognized for who they really are. Some day, this will all catch up to them all.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Bots and trolls usually

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I used to use Twitter as a way of directly following a few sources of news. Follow NPR, BBS, Reuters, Etc. I don’t know anyone who expected to learn of news from “the algorithm”. That’s still true today. Expect to get fed news from whatever is trending and you’ll be bamboozled, fed useless stories a day propaganda.

Some of these sources can instead be snagged from RSS feeds and Mastodon and besides official apps, those are much better ways to follow news and always have been.

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[–] [email protected] 211 points 1 year ago (59 children)

It’s actually crazy how low the percentage of people under like… forty is now that actually gets their news direct from a news site. Seriously, i don’t know a single person from like 20-35 who actually just goes on the NPR or C-SPAN app or whatever.

It kind of sucks. So much news is just reading the headline and seeing a photo now. And I just feel like there’s something bad about being able to see a comment section on Twitter or Reddit or even Lemmy now on every news event. Makes for a lot more group think rather than just reading the news and going “huh”

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I get my news from a paper and it is a decent blend of good and bad news. Quality journalism. I gift articles often just to kinda fight back against the whole title-and-picture-only news.

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[–] [email protected] 90 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Sometimes there's good discussion though, and it's good to hear different takes.

Having comments also gives less power to the writer, like could you imagine if we all took Fox News or CNN headlines at face value and didn't discuss them?

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You can literally just read news from less overtly biased news sources. There are scant few articles that I can think of where I really need a redditors interpretation of it

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (7 children)

It's not so much what their interpretation is of the specific article is, it's more that you might find more information from someone who has info that was left out, or maybe another source that has conflicting information.

Could you show us a few not so biased news sources? I suppose this will also vary wildly by topic. A news outlet might be narrative/propaganda driven on one topic, but not about another.

It's so much mess (through corporate ties or money) to sort through, it's hard to trust any of them anymore

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yea, you can't just read the news and go huh. anymore, because the news is no longer "this is what happened." Now it's "OMG YOU WON'T BELIEVE THIS YOU'RE GONNA HATE THAT this happened AND EVERYONE IS PISSED"

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Actually it’s really not at all. You’re probably just thinking about Reddit/lemmy/twitter posts when you write that.

Go on like NPR or C Span and actually read the news. It’s fine.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The number of those news outlets is shrinking, though. It used to be that every city had a local paper with real news. Now they're all part of a media conglomerate and do the bare minimum of actual journalism.

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[–] [email protected] 90 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

I mean it was never actually a good place for news, aside from the top five trending stories, if you wanted infinite bad takes on them.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

You could follow journalists you like or outlets though

[–] [email protected] 133 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I'd argue it was a good place for FAST news. For a lot of major events you can find posts and videos from users before the media releases anything, which is kind of a first for humanity at least in terms of accessibility.

Now, if you're looking for ACCURATE news...

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, I'd say that it was useful to gather sources that had to be vetted for accuracy. Honestly, I'd also say it made a good source for the media, where they'd have the job of vetting it and putting out material with more delay but also more accuracy.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Yep I heard that it was great for journalists looking for info on a developing story. You could usually follow a hashtag around to find videos from different angles and witnesses to follow up with / interview.

Hopefully that builds up on the new platforms too

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's no longer a good place for news, discussion, or even real opinions. It's just an echo chamber of hate and closed-mindedness, and increasingly just bots talking to each other.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Right, and though it is certainly worse, my argument is that this was true before the rich brat bought it.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It depends. In the early days of the Android ROM scene, Twitter was the best place for news. Cyanogen and all the crews basically announced their new releases exclusively on Twitter. There has been a similar vibe for other scenes over the years as well. Discord is largely taking over that space these days, but I miss the simplicity of following one or two people whose updates I cared about a bunch over the new reality where I'm in 30 Discords and they're all chock full of notifications for endless nonsense I care nothing about.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

I mainly used XDA then, but you right. I had truly forgotten how nice it was around '10 - '11.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


The same conspiracy-theory-peddling personalities who spammed X with posts claiming that Tuesday’s Baltimore bridge collapse was a deliberate attack have also called mass shootings “false flag” events and denied basic facts about the Covid-19 pandemic.

A Florida Republican running for Congress blamed “DEI” for the bridge collapse as racist comments about immigration and Baltimore Mayor Brandon Scott circulated among the far right.

As conspiracy theorists compete for attention in the wake of a tragedy, others seek engagement through dubious expertise, juicy speculation, or stolen video clips.

The boundary between conspiracy theory and engagement bait is permeable; unfounded and provoking posts often outpace the trickle of verified information that follows any sort of major breaking news event.

First, it was happening after a few big shifts in what the internet even is, as Twitter, once a go-to space for following breaking news events, became an Elon Musk-owned factory for verified accounts with bad ideas, while generative AI tools have superpowered grifters wanting to make plausible text and visual fabrications.

Being online during a tragic event is full of consequential nonsense like this, ideas and conspiracy theories that are inane enough to fall into the fog of Poe’s Law and yet harmful to actual people and painful to see in particular when it’s your community being turned into views.


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