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Cuffed in the back of a van with no seatbelts. You can get a ticket for not wearing a seatbelt in your car.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 7 months ago

American cops are Nazis

[–] [email protected] 183 points 7 months ago (1 children)

A homeless guy slept in public too many times, and the police decided to arrest him.

They handcuffed and chained him then drove fast and slammed the brakes on purpose with him in the back of the van. That broke his neck - paralyzing him from the neck down. Both legs needed to be amputated as well.

For falling asleep in a grass lot...

[–] [email protected] 103 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Call me crazy, but I would be happy to pay extra in taxes to make sure everyone had a roof over their head, healthcare (including dental, vision, mental health care), and their basic needs of life met (including hygiene products). If that comes out of police budgets, so be it.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Yeah but then you'd get people trying to be homeless on purpose

spoilerThis is a joke, please don't hurt me

Edit: how the fuck does spoiler text work

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago

The sad thing is some people don't think that's a joke.

[–] [email protected] 70 points 7 months ago (1 children)

What's crazy is it would likely cost less in taxes to do!

[–] [email protected] 14 points 7 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

it 100% costs less to house the homeless instead of leaving them on the street. the cruelty is the point

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago

whats more it costs less to also give them money for basic needs as well.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 7 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 32 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

I live in Canada and I want more socialism but our politicians keep destroying the system because they have rich friends that need help getting richer (Doug Ford I'm looking at you)

[–] [email protected] 16 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I know this is a joke but we should stop making it. It confuses the dumbasses.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Genuine question; How is it a joke? That's pretty much what we do where I'm from, and we're generally considered socialists.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 7 months ago (1 children)

If you take an industry, and make it owned and run by the workers, take the NHS of the UK for example. It's paid for by taxes, therefore owned by the public, and is run by the public, that's socialism. But just paying tax alone to have more services isn't socialism. Socialism is defined by the ownership and regulation of business and service by the people.

So paying taxes for the government to pay a private company to do the work is not socialism, for example madicaid in the US.

It doesn't seem like a big difference at first but the results are massively different.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I see, that is a very good point and an excellent explanation. Thank you.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Just want to say when I said "confuses the dumbasses" I wasn't referring to people like yourself, I was talking about hyper capitalists.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

I figured as much :)

[–] [email protected] 57 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

As always, ACAB.

(I hate that this is becoming a daily occurence.)

[–] [email protected] 32 points 7 months ago (2 children)

It's always been like this, friend. We just have better optics on it now.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It has, but exposing enough people to injustice like this as much as possible as loudly as possible is how to peacefully change entrenched systems.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

No doubt, I'm all for the increased optics. But, police abuse of power has likely dropped a bit since everyone has a video camera in their pocket, but due to the nature of the statistics we'll never know for sure one way or another.

I was mostly arguing against the notion that things have gotten worse when the truth is that it's just more visible. Same goes for stupid people and crazies.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago

So true. Still depressing as hell tho. :(

[–] [email protected] 216 points 7 months ago (3 children)

The incident bears similarities to what is known as a “rough ride,” a term used to describe police placing a detained person in the back of a van, without a seatbelt, and then driving erratically. The term came to mass prominence after the controversial 2015 death of Freddie Gray in Baltimore, who suffered severe injuries as he was being transported in a police van.

Wish we could stop tip-toeing around it. This was clear extrajudicial punishment but everyone from cop to judge will pretend it's some kind of accident or misunderstanding and ignore the totally systemic source of the problem- that cops have zero accountability.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 7 months ago

This was clear extrajudicial punishment

I think it's great how Americans mistrust the police so they live vigilantes but apparently the police also wants to play vigilante even though they would be in the perfect position to ensure that vigilantism isn't needed.

[–] [email protected] 133 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Speaking of not tip toeing things:

controversial 2015 death of Freddie Gray

The murder of Freddie Gray. The cops knew that what they did was dangerous because they have to clean up car accidents. Choosing to give someone a 'rough ride' is premeditated murder or attempted murder and anyone other than a cop would be charged.

[–] [email protected] 71 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It is also not in their job description to disperse "justice", or do anything but apprehend suspects and then allow the Justice System we have in place to deal with that. The second they step outside of that description they should be treated like any other citizen who took vigilante justice into their own hands, being charged and tried as such.

[–] [email protected] 63 points 7 months ago (2 children)

If I remember, Gray didn't even commit a crime. They arrested him for something the officers didn't realize was legal in their state, and he wasn't even doing it any way.