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Trump Media & Technology Group, the owner of struggling social media platform Truth Social, is began its long-delayed journey as a public company at Tuesday’s opening bell under the ticker symbol “DJT.”

The stock surged about 56% at the open, to $78, and trading was briefly halted for volatility. Trump Media shares have since stabilized at around $70, marking a 40% increase from Monday’s close.

Wall Street is assigning Trump Media an eye-popping valuation of around $13 billion — a price tag that experts warn is untethered to reality.

The skyrocketing share price comes despite the fact that Trump Media is burning through cash; piling up losses; and its main product, Truth Social, is losing users.

“This is a very unusual situation. The stock is pretty much divorced from fundamentals,” said Jay Ritter, a finance professor at the University of Florida’s Warrington College of Business, who has been studying initial public offerings (IPOs) for over 40 years.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago
[–] [email protected] 18 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Of course he made the stock symbol his initials...

[–] [email protected] 20 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Just like we had to wait longer for Covid stimulus checks so that his name could appear on them. Guy's ego is a big problem.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

May as well just light your money on fire, Wall Street.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Wall Street earns commissions selling junk to rubes.

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[–] [email protected] 50 points 7 months ago (3 children)

It almost sounds like an in-power group of people who have a vested interest in other in-power people being able to leverage "value" of an asset to get out of trouble to then help the first group are artificially inflating the "value" of something they set.

Twitter is valued at around $19B by Musk himself, and it has around 300 million users. Truth has 500,000 users. They have 1/600th the users and are valued at 2/3rd. They only generated $5M in revenue while losing $50M in costs. Twitter had roughly 200 times higher revenue, yet only 50% higher value. It's insane how obviously wrong the valuation is. And the thing is, sometimes tech companies have seemingly high valuations when losing money but are still worth it because of the potential for growth... but where is the growth coming from for Truth? Ain't nobody jumping from Twitter for Truth that hasn't already. It's not like there's a huge boom of conservatives coming our way. If anything, Truth's current trend of losing users will only continue with Threads coming online and other social media outlets.

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[–] [email protected] 113 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (8 children)

Revenue of $ 3.4 million should put it around a $ 34 million value, provided it had normal profit. But it operates at a deficit, and AFAIK a not impressive growth rate. So a more normal estimate would probably put the company about $ 20-25 million.

The talk about billions is ridiculous to a degree where it's either insane, or some sort of scheme exist to pump it to hundreds of times the actual value.

[–] [email protected] 85 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It's absolutely a way for Saudi Arabia & Russia to pay Trump's fines.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 7 months ago

That could be it, I bet something is going on, that is probably in the gray area, that could be outright illegal if done directly.

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[–] [email protected] 261 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (4 children)

This is a roundabout way for billionaires to donate to Trump without him having to necessarily disclose everything.

[–] [email protected] 109 points 7 months ago (5 children)

That's it in a nutshell. The rich want him because he's malleable and will obey their every command.

[–] [email protected] 54 points 7 months ago (6 children)

that is the basis of his presidency and any Republican candidate ever

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

“This is the usual situation. The stock is pretty much divorced from fundamentals,” said Jay Ritter

FTFY

[–] [email protected] 24 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Yeah, that goes with the Tesla stock among others.

Edit: Many of these are becoming just a popularity contest at this point.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 7 months ago (1 children)

a popularity contest that a huge percentage of us are forced to have our retirement accounts through. awesome.

the stock market is a scam in which we are forced to participate

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Your retirement plan doesn't have bond and money market options?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago

Mine is locked into the stock market by way of a former employer and worker's comp (I'm Canadian).

I can't move them to GIC's or any other form of investment. :(

[–] [email protected] 28 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Pretty much all of these tech valuations are made up bullshit.

But is this one of the most made up bullshittiest? Only time will tell.

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[–] [email protected] 70 points 7 months ago (2 children)

The logic is it's a megaphone plugged directly into the earholes of a shitload of very dumb, very angry people with plenty of disposable income. They might not give their money directly to Truth Social but Truth Social can give them lots of great ideas for who to give their money to.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

The best and most expensive megaphone. It's so great. You can write all these beautiful letters on it and you know folks, I can see those letters. Millions and millions of letters, in fact we have the best letters in the entire alphabet, it's true. Nobody on the internet has such a beautiful letters as I have. I practically invented them. And you can own some of those letters by buying the best stock on the market. It comes with a special orange colored email when you buy them. Just that email will be worth a gazillion because of contains my letters.

Make the internet GREAT AGAIN, folks !!!

I mean I was looking at it this afternoon market cap of 2.7 billion for a bunch of dumb angry people, who are listening to their obesed, dementing orange wannabe Jesus. It shows as someone else mentioned in this thread, (some) tech companies are just inflated air castles. If Trumps platform 2.7b worth the the real Jesus Must be a multi trillionaire

[–] [email protected] 57 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (8 children)

with plenty of disposable income.

I would even wager a lot of those people don't have the disposable income but dispose it anyway.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

Oh absolutely. They buy into his bullshit products because they think it will make them money, but in the end they're worse off than when they started.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 7 months ago

True, yeah I guess the money they should be paying in child support or just feeding their kids isn't technically 'disposable', but if Truth Social can get to it before the kids do... I guess they owned the libs...

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