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[–] [email protected] 45 points 6 months ago (1 children)

i wonder when denuvo starts claiming these mods are "cheats"

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I could get the game for free, the mtx for free, and could want to play it, and would still never do it, because of how stupid this is. Sorry studio artists, your work is forever tainted for the choices of your owners. It will never shine through their dense immoral greed of your masters.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (7 children)

You're just denying yourself a really fun experience. The game is actually really good especially if you're able to download it without paying if the whole morality thing is what's stopping you. If it's available I'd get it.

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[–] [email protected] 67 points 6 months ago (4 children)

If I was into modding, I'd do this too.

Single player games should not have micro transactions for power ups. Period.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 6 months ago (1 children)

This is my philosophy with things. If something can be bought with real money in a single player game I've already paid for, I have no problems using mods or cheats to get the same things.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago

I got Breath of the Wild on release and I paid for the DLC years later. Gotta say I'm happy with it. There is a correct way to experience Hyrule, and it's on a motorcycle. No notes.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

I might know why Capcom tried to start a war on mods a month or so ago...

I still want to play DG2, but I can afford to wait until it costs a value I think it's worth. It's not like there's a shortage of games to play or anything.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 6 months ago

I won’t be paying for this game on principle. I might not even play it.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 6 months ago (1 children)

If the community fixed the game, I want a discount.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago

Get the five finger/seven seas discount

[–] [email protected] 73 points 6 months ago

Completely foreseeable response to a greedy mtx cashgrab on a single-player game.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (5 children)

There was never any need. All the micro transactions were just time skips for the dumb. The systems are the same dragons dogma systems they had in the first one. They didn't artificially change things to be grinder. They just put in paid for cheats.

If you want to use them, that's fine, and certainly, this over paying for it. But people framing this as a need is bad. Which is expected of eurogamers headlines the past few years.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

if we just comply and accept all this shit, next step will be ramping up the things that make people want to buy these stupid microtransactions. In context of dragons dogma examples could be making rift crystal gain so awful you have to grind for them, making class changes cost rift crystals, making more items that you can only get with real money.

And most of all, this is SINGLE PLAYER, if someone isnt disgusted by these kinds of microtransactions in this game on principle, I dont even know anymore what to say.

But as silverlining for all this shit, at least greedy executives will see making games more challenging as profitable thing to do. Though unfortunately it will likely also mean challenge will come from having to do a lot of unfun stuff to get anywhere vs pay money so you dont have to because people who make these decisions only care about money and people will give it to them and defend them for it no matter what.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

Did you buy the Resident Evil 4 remake?

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

The first game had the same micro transactions too. It's hilarious to me how everyone seems to have forgotten this.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 months ago

I think a lot of people played Dark Arisen which came with everything packaged.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago

I just finished the "normal" ending a few hours ago. I fast travelled like, 4-5 times? placed down two portcrystals, never used?

I admittedly kinda sped through just to get an idea of the game, and plan to restart hopefully after a PC upgrade and some performance patches, but fast travel really is just not something you really need. The main quest is pretty clever about providing easy ways to keep you moving along, and most quests are pretty localized into an area.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I think the biggest misconception is that there is some mtx shop where you can buy game items. The steam store page for the game has some items in the dlc section that were available in the deluxe edition. 5 wakestones, 1 port stone, etc. It isn’t an unlimited amount to purchase. It’s essentially “did you decide not to buy the deluxe edition but regret it now for some reason? well here are the items included in the deluxe edition that you didn’t get.” There’s no buy all the fast travel i want scenario. It’s maddening to keep seeing this line because it’s clear to anyone who’s actually played the game.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 6 months ago (5 children)

Nobody has ever claimed you need them to finish the game.

The frequently spoken rule of thumb for micro-transactions being "not a big deal" is that they should be cosmetic only if the base game isn't free.

This game's micro-transactions are gameplay modifying items and in-game currency packs. That's a violation of the rule of thumb, so lots of us are saying it's a big deal.

I don't want this normalized. Because if it becomes the norm then full pay to win is much easier to normalize.

But even without that fear, it's absolutely just gross on its own.

They deserve all of the negative reviews and press they're getting for it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

imo, even cosmetic micro-transaction stuff is disgusting. In single player its absolutely intolerable and in multiplayer its at the edge. Not only it makes creating almost non-existent content more profitable, likely at the expense of worthwhile content because any development costs money. Why make the game better when you can create more cosmetics. I'm not saying creating cosmetics is trivial, but making new skin vs creating actually new content are on completely different scales, especially when those new skins are sometimes just recolouring old ones.

Not having access to cosmetic stuff without paying extra also often detracts from the game for me. As example, in game v-rising there are some cosmetics packs for different skins for your castle's furniture. While you can furnish the place decently with stuff you get, you can be much more creative if you have access to the alternative skins.

If they were all part of some larger expansion pack with something more than just skins, I could accept it but if i have to buy every theme pack separately, I'm not going to do that. I would have much less money available if i had to buy every damn dlc to every game I play. I'd say building and decorating your castle is 50% of the game, less if you don't care about how your castle looks at all. Not buying these dlc make the game less enjoyable for me.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago (2 children)

MTX are bad in general but these MTX look identical to what they've put into recent games like RE4 Remake and DMC5. Mechanically it is all items such as Red Orbs in DMC5.

I wasn't even aware that there were MTX in DMC when I was playing it. Have they made the option more prominent in this game? Or is there just more outrage about this game because it has had a rocky launch and gamers smell weakness?

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (2 children)

You can frame this as I don't like non cosmetic microtransactions if you like. But you have to agree that isn't what 99% of the online discourse is doing. Almost everyone is making statements that are not true because they want to feel outraged and want others to feel outraged, and because they have been lied to by another person's outrage.

It's a hurricane of lies, and it's honestly been worse on lemmy than on reddit.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

If someone is telling lies they should be called out for it, but in matter-of-fact way to avoid pointless drama, while providing sources for the truth.

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 6 months ago (1 children)

And your favorite pirate site negates the need to give capcom any money.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

has Dragon's Dogma 2 already been cracked?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago (2 children)

EMPRESS too busy Shizo posting to crack it just yet?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

I heard she's in jail.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago
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