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Soft and fragile things on top, heavy things on the bottom, square things in the middle, circular things on the outside, cold things in one bag, non-cold-things in another bag, and anything that can't be organized in this way in a third bag.
Oh absolutely. They are arranged in the trolly before even getting to checkout too but you are querying a crowd on Lemmy that is going to be biased towards programmer / engineer types that tend to function well in their world due to compulsive features often considered pathologic by others.
you are querying a crowd on Lemmy that is going to be biased towards programmer / engineer types that tend to function well in their world due to compulsive features often considered pathologic by others.
I feel personally attacked. :D
Edit: also to answer the question. Yes I absolutely arrange things on the checkout belt.
I group these items: Liquids. Fridge. Cans and bottles. Fruit and veg, heavier ones first so the potatoes don't crush the berries. Frozen gear near fridge gear. Chemicals / cleaning gear separate.
I should add that I'm buying for a lot of people so the shopping trips tend to be large and there would be a full bag of most of those groupings.
Not really
Depends. Aldis, not much. Walmart I absolutely do. Self check, a little, but only use it when only have a few things.
I tend to shop at grocery stores where the cashiers are paid relatively decently and have their shit together (Aldi, Lidl, Costco), so I often don't have time to do more than shovel everything out of the cart top-down as quickly as possible before they're already scanning it.
Nope
Of course I do, is there another way? How else would one determine packing order and avoid crushing the more delicate stuff like tomatoes and eggs under the weight of the heavier items.
Same with stuff that needs to be frozen or refrigerated. Makes it that much easier to put things away when you're back home.
I don't organize them with a mind as to how they'll be bagged, but I usually put vegetables down first as they take the longest individually to process and put fragile things like eggs last.
What I do wonder is if the cashier is judging me as to the quality of my purchases. Like if it's all fresh vegetables and grains do I get an A? If I add in a frozen pizza does the score drop to a B-? If it's just trash like chips and processed junk do I get a D?
As a former cashier, I literally did not care what anyone purchased.
I was a cashier at a department store decades ago, the answer is no. When I started I'd judge people on their purchases, after a few shifts I couldn't care or remember anything anyone got.
What grade does the guy getting 4 cooked whole chickens in a bag get? What if heβs getting a case of miller lite too? Asking for a friend.
Self bagging only pretty much where i live.
The cashiers at lidl are so fast it's hard to keep up.
I just stuff everything in fast as possible trying to maximise damage; this can also save on chewing time later.
But I only have to carry it as far as my bicycle - and I do sometimes need to fish out and reorganize heavy stuff at that point to keep the pain-ears vaguely balanced.
Though it is quite fun to try with 6-7 litres of liquids on one side and 2 carrots and a lettuce on the other.
If it's not too windy I'd just do that - shopping is boring.
If I was walking farther I'd take a big rucksack and yeah I'd probably pack it more systematically.
I can understand car users not bothering to organise though.
Unless you're driving 100km through the desert and think anything frozen wil melt.
What is a pain -ear
And what is a lidl
And what is a lidl
A gettin'-place
I'm a car-free city dweller, so I always put heavy stuff first so I can pack it in my backpack, lighter stuff next to fill my reusable bags, with fragile stuff last so it's packed on top.
Makes it easy to walk or bus home with everything.
I am way lax. No pre-organization really at all - but most of the time I also bag them myself with my own bags. I wlll somewhat organize them during that process.
I go to scan-while-you-shop places then strategically bag as I walk around the store. 30 seconds to pay and then leave.
I keep cold things or products that are identical or related together most of the time. So all the bags of chips, or all the cans, all the meats, all the frozen stuff, etc.
And I guess like the other guy, I usually stick fragile stuff on one end or the other.
Well at the Prisma I go to we just scan products into bags in the store (you have your bags open the shopping cart)
I tend to do my primary shopping at a place where you bag your own. The order is generally produce and bulk items first (it tends to be the bulk of the purchase), then frozen things, boxed/canned things, and finally squishy things like bread, eggs, and uh, delicious Hostess fruit pies.
You reminded me that some third-world countries like the US have people packing your groceries for a few dollars a day
Heavy stuff in the backbag (Eastpak Student style),
Others stuff in the two handbags,
i'm Urbanized.
When i lived in a rural zone, wasnt the same at all.
I generally go to self-scan line, so it's the order in which I bought these. When I go to a more classical line, Heavy, then cold, then light so the heavy stuff goes on the bottom of the bag, the cool stuff in the middle (where they are a bit protected) and the light things on top
Heavy first, light last. This way the light stuff won't get squished. And we bag stuff ourselves here, we aren't that lazy.
There is no such concept as "groceries getting bagged for you" in Germany. I have a backpack with me where I put my groceries.
Regarding your question, yes have a strategy.
The basic order on the belt is heavy to light items, so that the heavy things such cans or glas bottles go to the bottom, light stuff like yoghurt and eggs at the end of the belt so they come on top of the other groceries.
Of course this is not fixed, as light but bulky items may get a prioritized place on the belt. The worst thing that can happen is that you have to repack your backback.
However this is not all. As our cashiers are usually professionals, you will need to stategically slow them down, you want to avoid the shameful and pressuring looks of your successors. I do that by putting items inbetween the other stuff on the belt that have to be counted or weighed, such as pastry and vegetables. This gives you time to pack your stuff or rearrange in case you made mistake a step earlier.
As a European, I have never once had an extra person there whose sole purpose is putting your groceries into bags, what a strange concept.
Here in New Zealand, different supermarket chains do it different.
- One is literally called Pak n Save, you pack your own bags.
- One very often has a second person packing bags. This is a pricier store.
- And one just has the cashier drop your things into the bag after they have scanned them.
The third one seems most natural to me. Why not have them put your stuff in a bag since they are already holding it?
In Australia the checkout person does the bagging themselves, no second person required.
I canβt speak for the US, but in poorer countries (like my home country of South Africa), itβs common for someone to bag your groceries. The simple reason is because it provides extra jobs at the store. Itβs the same for filling your car with petrol.
So is it customary to tip the person doing the bagging? Or maybe a designated bagger will do it faster, resulting in less wait times?
My favourite system is where I place my cart next to another one, and the cashier will scan everything while placing the item in the other cart, where I could have placed boxes if I wanted to.
Itβs the same for filling your car with petrol.
But how does this person provide any value though? That person has to be paid as well, and doing something a customer can do well by themselves provides very little value. It used to be necessary, older petrol pumps had to be manually enabled or had no stop valve that person is required. With modern pumps having a person fill up your car is equally unnecessary.
So is it customary to tip the person doing the bagging?
When I was in South Africa, this wasnβt very common. I suppose you could tip them but there isnβt a very big tipping culture there.
Or maybe a designated bagger will do it faster, resulting in less wait times?
Personally, Iβve never thought that having a designated bagger was that much faster (by themselves). Sometimes youβd see someone helping the bagger, this would be faster.
But how does this person provide any value though?
Itβs not necessarily about the value they provide. Since unemployment is so high, if you can create extra jobs, the business will do it. When I left, unemployment in my province was at 50%.
Itβs the same for self checkout. You could easily do it yourself but youβd lose out on potential jobs (bagger and cashier). This article is really good at showing why these systems are the way they are.
Heavy stuff first, cold things together, fragile stuff last.
Basically this, but with cleaning products/ chemicals last.
And for me, it's the snack I just bought to eat now that's last.
Last? I want those first, they are usually in very sturdy containers so putting some stuff on top is fine. They are also usually heavy and heavy stuff goes first. Also if they leak, I want them to leak out of the bottom of the bag and not over all the groceries and then out of the bottom of the bag
I see. I always put them on a separate bag so they're always dead last. If they're on the same bag, then it makes sense to be at the bottom.
Seperate bag seems smart. I usually don't have a whole lot of groceries and a big grocery bag, so if I can I try to get it all in one bag.
Yeah I'm trying to remember how we used to do it (the last time I went through a normal checkout with a full shop was probably 10 years ago) and this seems right.
Gotta have the heavy stuff handy so you can put it straight into the bottom of the bags. Anything else is wasting time!
Do you have conveyor belts going straight to your fridge now?
Not OP but home delivery got very common since covid lockdowns in my country.
This is the way
This is the way