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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (13 children)

Seems like every offer that demands that the hostages be released gets rejected. Wonder if that means they don't have as many living hostages as Israel believes.

Hopefully this can come to a conclusion quickly but it seems like various parties are making that more difficult all around.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (6 children)

this makes me suspect even more it has been incited by russia as a distraction. i mean the situation was messed up in israel/palestine for like 80 years, but suddenly when russia has problems invading a country, it escalates. coincidence? i doubt it.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

I mean Iran is Russia's link to this shit, and Iran has been distancing the fuck out of their relationship with Hamas since the attack, which implies Hamas jumped the gun, which implies Iran doesn't have as much control over them as they'd like, which means Russia would have even less ability to direct the action.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I doubt it, because their vote doesn't indicate that Russia or China want to avoid a ceasefire. Russia and China both know that the US would vote against it anyway, which means that their vote won't alter the situation anyway, so both Russia and China are free to vote in whatever way they think is most politically-appealing; their vote is decoupled from what they want to happen.

You could say that it's surprising that they wanted the political appearance of opposing a ceasefire, though. I don't know what considerations factor into that.

EDIT: Oh, wait, this is one that the US proposed, so it's probably on terms that Israel would accept.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Mmm. Did Russia even need to incite it, or just toss gasoline on the flames that are already burning?

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 year ago (15 children)

Let's see how the anti-Biden tankies try to spin this one.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You should post it to [email protected] and really rile them up!

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago

They probably just won't recognize any facts that challenge their worldview.

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