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Edit: It looks like the argument here is that the US is not calling for an instant ceasefire, but instead saying that one is very important to have. China and Russia say it should be immediate. The US also tied it to hostage talks.

Another resolution is in the works to call for an immediate ceasefire, but the US is expected to veto it because they believe it could endanger hostage talks.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

America posturing by submitting Israel's demand for a 6 week ceasefire in exchange for all hostages and then continuing their Genocide. Fuck Biden.

Let's not forget the real story.

The United States had vetoed three previous resolutions demanding a stop to fighting in Gaza, arguing that the measures could disrupt hostage negotiations and staunchly defending Israel’s right to defend itself after the Hamas-led attack of Oct. 7. In each of those earlier Security Council votes, the United States was the only vote against the resolutions. Russia and Britain abstained from the first vote, in October, and Britain abstained from the votes in December and February.

New video by Democracy Now on this facade: https://youtu.be/Ggpc9QHc_vk

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Wow. According to the video this isn't even a security council ceasefire call.

This is just an acknowledgement of the importance of a cease-fire. It's a giant nothing burger.

Edit: interesting comment from ex UN member Craig Mokhaiber:

A draft that does not demand an immediate ceasefire, but instead suggests one might be negotiated if certain conditions are met, and that genocidal attacks can otherwise continue, is not a ceasefire resolution. It is a ransom note.

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 year ago (27 children)

So I want to be upfront and say I don't really agree with their argument, but I do understand it. What Russia and China are saying is by tying the ceasefire to the release of hostages is unfair to the Palestinian side. This is because they lose all leverage and then would be easy targets for Israel who doesn't seem to mind bombing Palestinian civilians.

My issue is that technically the only reason their bombing is because of the hostages and perhaps if they release the hostages peace talks can begin. The opposite of that argument is it will allow Israel to be even more aggressive after the temporary cease fire is ended.

I don't know, but that's the argument.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Israel is bombing to exterminate the Palestinians so they can claim all the land. It's pure genocide.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I find it incomprehensible that anyone could justify the holding of innocent hostages.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Indeed. israel should release the 3000 hostages of which more than 140 children which they are torturing in their concentration camps.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Maybe they demand permanent instead of “sustained”

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