From what I understand there was a rather significant window of time between being submerged and the car filling up with water. I am willing to bet she drained whatever she had on her in that timeframe after giving up on the window and her life.
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"She was no angel"
Memento mori.
One less billionaire in the world is a good thing no matter the cause.
Err... her kids are just going to inherit that wealth.
This solves nothing and you shouldn't think it does.
The only way to get rid of the ruling class is to redistribute their wealth. Any other suggestion is just a distraction for useful idiots.
A funny part of this whole thing that isn't discussed... Why isn't the "intelligent robot car" equipped with anything to stop you from doing any of the shit that led to this? Fucking snake oil bullshit.
You really don't want an automated system to have complete, unbreakable control over a scenario. You always want the option for a human to manually take control, because automation isn't foolproof, especially in edge cases.
However, they probably should have a breathalyzer that prevents you from taking manual control if you're so impaired that the automated system is probably safer than your drunken judgement.
You're missing the point, I didn't say full autonomous control. There are thousands of intermediate steps that could be involved - from escalating light/audio warnings, to auto lowering of the Windows or popping doors slightly to relieve pressure when significant water is sensed within car's internals for a sustained period of time to maybe even a temp limit of a vehicle speed/control while it's moving under a certain speed towards a sensed danger and not on a road/highway.
The bigger point is that musk snake oil cars are sold with the vapor of "smart" and this did nothing smart to help save this woman's life, in fact it sealed her into her avoidable death due to poor design and profound lack of several basic and easy to implement potential "smart" features that could have attempted to warn or intervene.
You're absolutely correct.
What about a death from a drunk driver is an “unfortunate accident?” It’s not an accident, first of all, because you have to intentionally choose to break the law and operate heavy machinery while blitzed. Second of all it’s not unfortunate it’s fucking preventable because you have to intentionally choose to the break the law and operate heavy machinery while sloshed. I’d even go so far as to say it was fortunate because the drunk driver killed themself instead of someone else which a huge consequence that has led to it being against the law to operate heavy machinery while fucking hammered.
“Gee we’re sorry this person did the thing we tell you not to do from before you start driving it’s so unfortunate they made an intentional choice to endanger the life of anyone around them including themself this very bad decision we tell you not to make was clearly an accident”
I mean, it's definitely still an accident. Getting behind the wheel wasn't an accident, and obviously she shouldn't have done it, but reversing into a body of water and drowning to death wasn't an intentional act. Don't be absurd.
Is it illegal to drive drunk on private property? I was under the impression that it wasn’t.
It's pretty unlikely she got into the vehicle to do donuts on the front lawn. It is pretty likely she was gonna enter public roads while intoxicated behind the wheel, and I applaud her for preventing herself from doing it. Permanently.
Probably depends where you are. Evidence does suggest however that it is very unwise regardless of the legality.
It turns out a surprising amount of illegal things are still illegal even if you do them at home.
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It is illegal to operate a motor vehicle under the influnce anywhere in the state of Texas.
According to the Florida state police, yes it is.
Seems a little out of their jurisdiction tbh.
Lol police exist to protect private property, of course it's within their jurisdiction.
She was already in the "probably had it coming" category but this just makes it moreso.
Drinking and driving is the same as making a decision to maim or murder others, in my opinion.
Oh no. Next!
One down...
Smell that Bill? Smells like someone died.
Not just drunk, 3x the limit drunk.
Which is probably like 6 drinks in most states
Honestly for her probably closer to four. I am assuming she wasn't a very big person and I know she is a she so yeah about four.
she was also asian
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