The cross is important because Christ's death was a Sacrifice.....in a similar way to offering a live animal on an altar, or offering incense to a god. Its this sacrifice (his crucifixion) that saves us.
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Exactly. And the sacrifice refers not to Jesus's suffering and persecution, but what humanity gave up in that sacrifice - God's active, personal presence on Earth.
If you're not religious, it all means nothing,of course.
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As an atheist I appreciate that Jesus was willing to die for what he believed in. He saw injustice in the world and took action even at the cost of himself. That's what I see in the cross.
But that's not why he died. He didn't take a bullet for his friend, he freely offered himself as a sacrifice for our sin. This is what saves us from unending death. That's why the cross is important. His death was more similar to an Animal that is sacrificed by the local shaman then a soldier who gets killed fighting against terrorists.
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Many Christian, but non Catholic denominations definitely do not use, or phased out the usage, of crosses ( also fish symbols/religious stamps/rosaries and so on) as they understand this fact
Also they understand that Matthew 16:24 is referring to a Stavros/stauros, literally a wooden torture stake/pole, in allegory to taking a heavy responsibility, in general, as previous context shows that spreading the lord's message, with the difficulties it may bring, to extract a heavy toll on the average person's life, up to the point of having to sacrifice said life
They also understand that even thought the old law have been abolished, the spirit of it keeps on on many of their aspects, so no worshipping idols of any kind (imaginary or physical) is seen as the practical approach
Sam Kinison had a routine where he was pretending to be Jesus explaining why he hadn't returned yet: "yeah, I'll be back as soon as I can PLAY THE PIANO AGAIN! OH OHHHHHHHH!"
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its because the roman empire hijacked the religion and after their collapse the leftovers (Catholic church) forced an entire continent into 1000 years of oppression.
Be more specific. Constantine did it, he blended Christianity with the Roman religion in the most convenient way possible
Jesus is lord.
Cross defeats Jesus.
Cross is lord.
Christianity is just another weird death cult. I never understood why the Romans had an issue with him until I learned that Jesus was literally proselytizing that people were going to raise from the dead. I am not talking about the afterlife, he was saying that people are going to unalive and his kingdom would be on this earth with everyone who died coming back to life.
Fucking whacko to say the least and then sure enough his cult had him come back to life like he said everyone else would. Sooo yeah they were fucking crazy and so is everyone who thinks a ancient book contains all the answers. Hint: it doesn't.
Of course he liked crosses! There was even that one cross he used to hang at.
Nailed it.
the whole point of Christianity is that Jesus sacrificed himself to absolve humanity of the original sin. The cross represents the sacrifice.
Highly suspicious that we elected this representation of this sacrifice without written approval by Jesus himself, ey?
And yet having sacrificed himself, he's now back hanging out with his Dad in heaven and having a great time. That's not a "sacrifice", it's more like a bad time at summer camp.
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LIES THEY USED DIE FISHE SYMBOL IN ITS EARLIER LIFESPAN!!!!
Read this like he said it
Except earlier it said to have no idols. The cross is an idol. You can appreciate a sacrifice without using the tool that caused such sacrifice as a form of worship. If your father jumped in front of you and died to a gun shot, he sacrificed his life to save you and you would be appreciative. Would you then wear a gun necklace around your neck to show you love your dad and the sacrifice he made for you? By sanctifying his murder weapon?
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Christianity is a man made religion shaped to control people in which you are supposed to "worship" a really high authority that cannot be questioned.
Are their non man made religions I should know about?
I feel like dogs would have a good religion. I wanna subscribe to that.
I like the part where they worship me.
if one uses the broad meaning of "religion" then i'd say unorganized ones aren't really manmade, like hunter-gatherers just vaguely assuming the moon is "a spirit or something i guess" isn't comparable to christianity or islam.
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It was inherited from Zoroastrianrism.
Not a religious person here, but I think it's a metaphor, where we all are carrying a cross, like jesus did, but smaller... and lighter...
just another example of Christians cherry picking what they what to use from their religion and using it out of context to better serve their agendas.
So not like Jesus at all then
holly molly, you are not a person of metaphors, right?
They only wear tiny crosses if they also have tiny Jesus on them. The lesson of the crucifixion pain can only manifest if everything is to proper scale.
I bicycle past a catholic church that has a banner that says "JESUS WELCOMES YOU WITH OPEN ARMS" and a drawing of Jesus nailed on the cross. I'm like ... wait a minute, is that actually a joke? Jesus' arms are open because they're nailed to a piece of wood?
Haha, that made me chuckle. As did this when I saw it on lemmee....
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The American Christian message: Act like Jesus and we will crucify you too.