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cross-posted from: https://lazysoci.al/post/27615443
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If I could do this minus the working part, that would be greeeeaaaaat
Apparently someone is offended that I am coerced into providing my labor rather than doing so freely, and that I would rather just have that time to myself to do with as I please
Presenting yourself as an antisocial it's the perfect recipe for being able to provide for yourself.
I mean who wouldn't want to BE around, be attended by and work in sensitive, multiple people and teams dependent, expensive projects that provide services and goods to OTHER HUMAN BEINGS with someone that publicly states to be a misanthrope and who derives JOY from actively NOT being around others
SERIOUSLY, what's not to like?
The only times I didn't loathe office time was when I had zero time commitment to be actually in the office.
Go in, get keys, go into field for 7.5-9 hours, return, drop off keys, head home.
Sometimes I would leave or return early and discuss matters with coworkers in passing. But anything important was done by e-mail so it didn't matter.
When my butt in a cubicle seat became the only metric (and a synonym for) working, it was awful.
Some of the comments here have to be astroturfing. I can't believe that real people would rather be in an office with colleagues than have more time for friends and family.
I work at home Monday, Wednesday, and Friday. In the office Tuesday and Thursday and this works for me, as if I go all week at home my mood plummets, seems I like some human contact in the week.
At weekends I see friends and family.
I'm currently 100% remote, and to be honest I do sometimes miss having coworkers to shoot the shit with, and there absolutely are practical drawbacks to being remote -- especially if you are the one remote worker on a team that is at least partially in office together. At least for me the benefits of being home all the time do outweigh that, on balance, but I'd be lying if I told you that I felt that I was as well-integrated with the rest of my teams as I could be, or that being just a voice and/or face in a video call doesn't have some amount of impact on my long-term prospects.
That said, I really only miss a small handful of my in-office coworkers, and we still do make a point of grabbing lunch every month or three. The rest of the in-office experience can stuff it.
The assumption here is that they have friends and family they want to interact with. It’s lonely when you have no one and working in the office means that you get to socialize and have the potential to do things after work because you’re already dressed/out.
Ideally work would have friendly interactions.
Used to WFH and to be honest I missed the office at the time. Every now and then I'd show up in the office and get zero work done because I'd catch up with everyone lol
All but a handful of ours want to never set foot in the office. Most prefer 1-2 days in, a few would rather 3-4.
When we're in, it's a LOT of socializing. We're far more efficient at home. When it all started, we were trying to find ways to get people to want to come in, now we're just trying to make sure we're in there enough to "justify" keeping the office space. (our office is pretty swank)
It's nice to have the option for both. Sometimes the slog of driving there is too much.
As much as people act like they don't need contact with other humans, it has been shown to be absolutely necessary for mental health and brain health.
In one of his Sherlock Holmes stories, Sir Arthur Conan Doyle makes a reference to the effect of being alone on someone like Newton versus someone like Beau Brummel. Unfortunately, it seems there are too few Newtons and too many Brummels in the world.
While that's true, it doesn't need to be 40 hours a week of co-workers. You can fill some of that with family and friends.
Exactly, which is why I appreciate wfh so much, because the reduced commute time means I've had more time to establish a healthy long term social life which will last beyond my current contract. I also appreciate the extra time I get to spend with my loved ones, which, as you rightly point out, is very important for mental health. Mandatory return to office ruins all of this, and taking into consideration what you said, should really be considered a threat to public health and wellbeing.
Yeah, but you can get that outside of an office with people you actually enjoy being with.
I speak to another human daily when I go get some bread at the corner.
Speak for yourself. It highly depends on what people you are talking to and the quality of those relationships. IDGAF about anybody at work and could go my entire life without speaking to them again.
I thought the same but over the years my perspective has changed. It's not actually healthy to think like that about people you spend a third of your time with
While moving into my current house, my family spent a lot of time at the old house prepping things while I maintained occupancy of the new house, so of course I was here alone most of the time. I do work from home. I specifically chose this house because, among other reasons, there are no neighbors near enough to encounter by accident. I don't really go anywhere on a regular basis. As a result, most days the first time I spoke was at my morning meeting; on many occasions it was the last, too. Even better, I was having sinus issues, so until I opened my mouth I was never sure my voice would be there, let alone how it would sound. (Once or twice I did say a few test words to myself to make sure I could be heard.)
There are a lot of things I miss about those times, but I'm much happier now with my family here. I remember that, when we all came up together to buy the house, my kid had left a little rubber dinosaur on the back of one of the toilets, so I saw it every time I used the facilities. It was the first time I'd spent any significant amount of time away from my kid since they'd been born and I was stunned by how much emotion such a simple reminder of their existence elicited.
I still don't really talk to anyone else, though.
being able to stay with family and friends is such a blessing
For me, over the years having no connection with anyone at work has actually been detrimental and led me to seek an in office job.
It wasn't the only factor but it was definitely one of them. Humans are social creatures at the end of the day.
I don't need work to be social. Sounds like a skill issue to me.
You don't necessarily need it, but if you have a full time job that's roughly a third of your time. Having a third of your time without social interaction causes you to need an extremely robust social life outside of work to make up for it, throwing things off balance.
I don't think it has much to do with skill, I just wanted more balance in my life