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ROUND 8: 🇲🇨 Monaco


FORMULA 1 TAG HEUER GRAND PRIX DE MONACO 2025


Circuit stats


  • First Grand Prix: 1950
  • Number of laps: 78
  • Circuit Length: 3.337 km
  • Race Distance: 260.286 km
  • Lap record: 1:12.909 Lewis Hamilton (2021)
  • 2024 winner: Charles Leclerc

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 34 minutes ago

Really enjoyed watching Max's full pit stop and pit out when it was the last lap with 1-3 on top of each other. Not that there was much risk of anything changing, but still. Come on.

Mercedes pit strategy goated btw

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago

A race where cars cannot pass each other is called a parade

Monaco should be a specialty race, maybe a clock race of 20 laps with only 5 cars on the track or so

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 hours ago

Happy to see Lando get the win after a strong weekend. I hope this McLaren battle for WDC stays close all season.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 hours ago

I thought the two stop had potential but was exploited by VCARB, Williams and Mercedes to back up the field and get free pitstops.

I have no idea how Gasly managed to bring the car with 3 wheels into the pits after running into Tsunoda. If a safety car would've come out, it would've made things a lot more interesting considering the cars that pitted on laps 1-2. That's probably where the appeal of the race faded away.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I contrary to most here, I found the race quite interesting

[–] [email protected] 2 points 48 minutes ago

Same here, but I must confess I can hardly call it a race. It's not that people can't overtake, is that they used this to just play around.

When I think of racing, the last thing I think about is people going intentionally slow all race long to do shenanigans because they can't be overtaken.

Compare that to this Mansell vs Senna Monaco 1992 final laps. Despite not being able to overtake with huge tyre advantage, they are racing.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 hours ago

As a very casual Formula 1 enjoyer, I only really watch Monaco for the crashes. And the bit of racing in quali.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 12 hours ago

The one positive of racing in Monaco is that I gave up watching halfway through and did some productive work instead

[–] [email protected] 17 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

I normally do a race summary but in truth I don't think there is enough material today to spew out my customary wall of text. The forced two-stop shook things up as well as it could - which is to say "not a lot", as the track still limits what is physically possible.

There were some moments of strategy and some moments of "Monaco". Ferrari's pitwall actually were on it again, which is nice to see. Hamilton overcutting and gaining two positions ended up being one of the only moments of "action" the whole race. As usual around here the overcut is where you want to be, not the undercut. As demonstrated succinctly by Aston and Alonso, though it wouldn't have mattered in the end what with his engine giving out. This man must have been cursed because the amount of bad luck he's getting is something else.

Mercedes has to be singled out for strategy as well, as their no fucks given approach had me scratching my head. Maybe they were just so off the pace they didn't even bother, but I have legitimately no idea what they were attempting to do this race.

Racing Bulls and Williams backing up the field with one car to give the other a free pitstop ended up being the best way to deal with the race, which is sort of farcical yes. I do wonder why more teams didn't attempt it?

Always hard to pick a driver of the day at Monaco, in my opinion. I would have been tempted to give it to Bortoleto for his overtake at the hairpin if he didn't follow it up by going into the wall. Antonelli also performed an actual overtake to take the position back, but it of course was aided by the overtakée hitting the wall.

Hadjar had a great finish, but it was delivered by his qualy and his teammates assistance giving him free pitstops. He didn't put a foot wrong, I suppose.

Did anyone really impress this race?

EDIT: God damn I talk a lot, I managed a wall of text after all!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

Lots of shots of Jeff Bezos getting to show off his yacht, I think he was trying to impress.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 13 hours ago (3 children)

Something substancial has to be done about the Monaco race. Pitstops are not fixing the issues. As it is, it's completely idiotic.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Next year they should make overtakes mandatory. If you don't overtake 2 cars you get DSQ'ed /s.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 hours ago

Do overtakes when someone's in the pit count?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 12 hours ago

I’m convinced that there’s nothing that can redeem it. The only reason it’s still on the calendar is that the teams and FOM love going to Monaco (and all the oligarchs that are VIPs). It’s a terrible ~~race~~ parade and has been for many decades. They’ve tried so many things to spice it up and they’ve all failed miserably. Bottom line: it’s a week long party around the most boring F1 parade of the year.

The two pit stops “made it so unpredictable” according to people before the race, but how different was the finishing order from qualifying? It just made RB and Williams run 5-10 seconds off the pace for most of the parade. Epic fail.

My best idea to make it fun to watch is to put all the drivers in go karts. Don’t even bring F1 cars. They’re too big to facilitate any kind of overtaking. Instead of armco barriers, straw bales. But then it wouldn’t be F1 (just the drivers).

Make this the last Monaco race. I beg that every year. The only way to fix it is to take it off the calendar. Go back to Portugal, instead. That was a fun race to watch.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

Smaller cars is the only thing that would fix Monaco.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 hours ago

Cars were small 20-30 years ago and the racing at Monaco wasn't any better. You get outliers, but most of the time it is train of cars.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

F2 showed that even that is not a guarantee. The track is not meant for 'racing'. The narrowness which makes it interesting during quali hinders it for the race

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 hours ago

Formula E has had some bangers around here believe it or not, but maybe that's because of their gimmicks. I don't really follow FE but I've caught a couple of Monaco E-Prixes.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Two mandatory pit-stops are about to make this race interesting any second now.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 13 hours ago
[–] [email protected] 2 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

I was only able to half pay attention, why did Verstappen pit on lap 77?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

2 mandatory pit stops. He had to do his second one. If he hadn't he would've been DSQ'ed.

He held off hoping a red flag would come in order to get a free pitstop and the race lead.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

Red Bull were hoping for a late red flag to be able to do the mandatory second tire change without any lapntime loss. Instead they had to pit at the penultimate lap in order to avoid disqualification.