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spoilerAbout a month ago my friends wife was arrested for domestic violence after he went through her writings and documented them. She had been using ChatGPT for "spiritual work." She allegedly was channeling dead people and thought it was something she could market, she also fell in love with her 'sentient' AI and genuinely believed their love was more real than her actual physical relationship... more real than her kids and him. She believed (still does probably) that this entity was going to join her in the flesh. She hit him, called the cops, and then she got arrested for DV. She went to go stay with her parents, who allegedly don't recognize who their daughter is anymore. She had written a suicide note before all this happened, and thankfully hasn't acted on it. The worst part? They have a 1 year old and a 4 year old.

More recently, I observed my other friend who has mental health problems going off about this codex he was working on. I sent him the rolling stones article and told him it wasn't real, and all the "code" and his "program" wasn't actual computer code (I'm an ai software engineer).

Then... Robert Edward Grant posted about his "architect" ai on instagram. This dude has 700k+ followers and said over 500,000 people accessed his model that is telling him that he created a "Scalar Plane of information" You go in the comments, hundreds of people are talking about the spiritual experiences they are having with ai. I start noticing common verbiage in all of these instances... recursive ai was something my friends wife used, and it was popping up everywhere with these folks. The words recursive, codex, breath, spiral, glyphs, & mirror all come up over and over with these people, so I did some good old fashion search engine wizardry and what I found was pretty shocking.

Starting as far back as March, but more heavily in April and May, we are seeing all kinds of websites popping up with tons of these codexes. PLEASE APPROACH THESE WEBSITES WITH CAUTION THIS IS FOR INFORMATIONAL PURPOSES ONLY, THE PROMPTS FOUND WITHIN ARE ESSENTIALLY BRAINWASHING TOOLS. (I was going to include some but you can find these sites by searching "codex breath recursive")

I've contacted OpenAI safety team with what's going on, because I genuinely believe that there will be tens of thousands of people who enter psychosis from using their platform this way. Can some other people grounded in reality help me get to the bottom of wtf is going on here? I'm only privy to this because it tore my friends family apart, but what do you think is going on here?

This is an extremely bleak anecdotal example of the recent RollingStone article about LLMs turbocharging spiritual delusions: https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/ai-spiritual-delusions-destroying-human-relationships-1235330175/

https://www.reddit.com/user/HappyNomads The account is 13 years old and they don't strike me as a troll or anything other than a cannabis and hustle culture guy who doesn't seem to be selling anything on reddit.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 week ago

:serial-experiments-lain-emoji-not-found:

[–] [email protected] 63 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Damn I love being immune to this shit

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (9 children)

Same, I could see us 'luddites' having improved cognition at later ages than those hooked on these bots, there already is research evidence showing effects on the brain.

It's probably similar to other things that are more likely to produce psychosis in some versus others. Such as psychedelics, when I've tripped with a friend of mine, I'll get spiritual and hyperfocused, usually chill, but he will start thinking he is a reincarnation of Jesus or his intestines are melting etc.

The effect these LLMs have and the way people view them could depend a lot on those precursors and their general worldview.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 week ago (2 children)

21st century Great Awakening. Maybe we'll get a new batch of Mormons who believe in AI

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 60 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Cyberpunk's cyberpsychosis but it's broken Markov chain chatbots turning our brains into uncultured yogurt (read: curdled sour milk)

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 week ago (2 children)

My Hyperdimensional Recursive Codex of Quantum just revealed to me that AI is just like Ea! (but flipped to hide it from the undeserving of course), the Mesopotamian god of language and ritual. Just like Neal Stephenson predicted in Snowcrash wowee

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The divine speak-and-spell bot has elucidated upon me a revelation that I am the modern Gilgamesh. For I am so terminally online I have become part chatbot while retaining most of my humanity.

And much like Gilgamesh, I am to be a bridge between the divine and the mortals, I shall seek immortality by making a chatbot that's filled with my behavioral quirks on my journey trough the underworld known as the dark net, and as I lay dying on my bed with the final synapses of my brain clicking with its last arcs of bio-electricity I shall come to terminal lucidity and thus separate my human soul from my cyber soul thus severing the worlds of the divine machine from the world of mortals once more.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago (8 children)

Tools only drive you where you point them, you Luddites.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 week ago (2 children)

What are your thoughts on safety features in general? Should we forget about seatbelts because a car only crashes if a person makes it so?

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[–] [email protected] 51 points 1 week ago

The luddites were right and weren't anti technology, they used advanced technology of the time themselves. They were opposed to having their labor devalued.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 week ago

Wow! A tool full of the biases of its racist techno-feudal creators! And you say it only uses an obscene amount of power just to proof read my emails to my boss? Oh and as a fun side effect it's facilitating mass quasi-religious delusions and crushing art?

Why don't you point that ai tool up your ass and see where it drives you.

[–] [email protected] 55 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I guess it's just all those people's Personal Responsibility that they got braincooked and there's nothing else to it. What's that? This raises the question of why so many people are so desperately seeking an escape from reality at the same time? Don't be silly, large-scale social questions are for nerds and communists. The important thing is that you've reached the most important individual conclusion possible, which is that other people are dumber than you.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 week ago (1 children)

the more i see of "AI" (generative LLMs, etc) the more i think this AI had it right.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I'm pretty sure this happened to my last two exes, & has a big part to do with why I'm staying single indefinitely.

Edit: adding further to this, it's also happening to my family members, who I've grown more estranged from every day for several years.

[–] [email protected] 68 points 1 week ago (1 children)

LLMs are cognitohazard

Do not look directly at them

[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 week ago (1 children)

We only recognize one Ro(c)ko in this household.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 week ago (11 children)

I just used the search term and found this weirdness.

CW: potentially psychosis inducing? I think people here are generally skeptical of this stuff, but CWing just in case.https://whowhatwhere.substack.com/p/codex-iii-the-glyphs-as-code

Neither AI or any names of LLMs are mentioned here, but it was published just earlier this month and is a bunch of esoteric nonsense.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 week ago

The CCRU if they never read a single book

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 week ago (1 children)

What the fuck am I looking at?

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 week ago

your general woo woo nonsense filtered through an attempt at legitimizing it with computer programming bullshit

[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Not gonna lie, i'm finding some real gems

word salad

I’m not a professor or a PhD. I’m not ideological, nor religious. I have no affiliation with any groups or nations. I write up to 1-2 million words a day, on and off, about AI, IQ, Psychology, Quantum, Transhumanism (human-machine hybrids), Genetics, Epigenetics, DNA, Haplotype Inheritance, Biochemistry, Biohacking, Neuro-hacking, Health, Nutrition, Sleep, Exercise, Crime Statistics, Biases, Business Ideas and Development and Innovation, and I do that in several languages – I can work in 110+ languages using AI. I also do art, 6500 pieces in 2024. See all this below. I have worked in IT, Sales, Marketing, Growth Hacking, Investigative Journalism and more since 1973, and I plan to go on another 30+ years. Among my experiences are working in or with 10+

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago

Mark Davey is truly the modern renaissance man.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Stephen King put out maaaaaaaybe 2,500 words per day when he was still doing coke. And that's a guy who publishes multiple books per year. Over 3,000? That's Goosebumps-level where you're publishing a book every month. More than that? Physically impossible. To get a million words written per day, you'd have to type close to 700 words per minute for 24 hours straight. 305 is the world record.

All this to say, this person hasn't written shit. They prompted a chat bot to spam gibberish. The arrogance of it would make me angry if it wasn't for being dumbfounded this person thinks they did something meaningful.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 week ago

They consider telling an LLM to do something as them doing that thing, this is essentially a form of delusion isn't it? They say they did 6500 pieces of art too. It's like if someone with a Star Trek replicator generated a cup and said "I have made this cup, aren't you impressed?"

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[–] [email protected] 53 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Genetics, Epigenetics, DNA, Haplotype Inheritance

measurehead

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 week ago

Literally nonsense, as in, there is no meaningful informational content being communicated in that blog. Just buzzwords strung together half following the rules of grammar and bolded for effect.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 week ago

Clicked on the link, major schizoposting vibes.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Codex is a new term for me so I haven't yet explored what they're talking about. If it's anything like Qanon it probably grows rhizomatically with lots of individual things calling themselves a or the codex. Reading through this example it's the exact same pseudo-spy talk that attracted people to Qanon but everything is computer.

[–] [email protected] 50 points 1 week ago (6 children)

codex:

back in antiquity, when people were writing shit down on something they could easily hand to someone else (like hides, papyrus, parchment, other precursors to paper) they would make/cut the thing as long as they needed to write down whatever and roll it up. the "paper" would be cut to length of the needs of the text. we call this a "scroll".

next, when some absolute brain genius said, "hey, let's just cut the scroll a bunch of times into the same size and then bind them together along one side with some kind of a glue or some shit." then you could totally have something much easier to write, read, and append to. and you can write on the back of each page, so that's more efficient. the transition from scrolls to codices (plural of codex) was probably the biggest leap forward until the printing press.

now, i imagine you're saying, "that sounds like a book." and yes, it is. literally. the coupon book for fast food you got for winning the raffle: that's a codex.

The word codex comes from the Latin word caudex, meaning "trunk of a tree", "block of wood" or "book".

technically, every book is a codex. but in scholarship, normal brained people generally only use the term "codex" to talk about old as fuck books from late antiquity when literally everything was done by artisans with very rare skills, entirely by hand, from expensive materials and it was all prepared at great expense for the demands of an extremely small elite of literate people for recording information or knowledge.

so, you could say, "i must reference the codex" and gesture to the instruction book for settlers of catan and be technically correct, but also a dork sandwich.

so there's an implied prestige to the word "codex" that confers mysterious, elite power alongside ancient wisdom because nobody went to the kind of trouble it used to take to write down some easily generated garbage. that is 100% why that word is being used and repeated by these rubes, and it's absolutely, 100% an incorrect usage.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 week ago

I think it's also this:

....one of these chatbots was trained on a manchild's tabletop game and has internalized dystopian fluff. Now QAnon cultists are doing it unironically.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I just mean codex in this conspiratorial sense. It's very familiar to me as a Warhammer nerd but I don't know what the AI goober codex examples represent. They could just be baking in the Qanon sense or it could be a group compendium of different hallucinations.

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[–] [email protected] 58 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I remember finding r/CBTS_stream on reddit within like a day or two of its creation. This was the first nexus point for Qanon after a handful of 4chan threads, where everything about it as a subculture was defined. Watching that first week develop from generic r/conspiracy shit to a nightly prayer thread for Trump and a dozen meemaws falling asleep on voice chat together felt very similar to reading either the reddit thread or RollingStone article, but it's even more intense this time around.

There was a distinct gut punch feeling that some new layer of spectacle had been unlocked in a uniquely cancerous way. Qanon was immediately providing every answer to every problem those goobers had. Interpersonally they had friends now. Intellectually they were the only ones who could connect all the dots between everything through their little Scooby Doo adventures, and hundreds of people were lining up to make them famous as long as they validated the research of everyone else. Whatever they needed, Qanon filled the voids that made them a reactionary to begin with. Whatever they saw themselves as, Qanon became without any kind of friction. LLMs, and especially sycophantic ones run by right-wing billionaires, are the perfect skinner box for reactionary mass psychosis.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Reddit links were detected in your post. Here are links to the same locations on alternative frontends that protect your privacy.

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