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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Perish like a dog it is then. There is no tearing down reality without you inside of it.

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Fight what exactly? Determinism either is or isnt how the universe works, it isnt like some sort of external force of finite capacity that can be resisted by some application of effort. If it is true, then you have no choice but to act the way something like you would act, and the way humans are wired to think is in terms of choices and the possible outcomes of those choices, even if the choice you make and the thinking that leads you to it is inevitable. If it is not true, then the possibility of making different choices exists, but it doesnt look any different to you because you only get to perceive the result of following one set of them.

The thing about determinism is that while it may be an interesting philosophical exercise, beyond being difficult to maybe impossible to prove or disprove, it isnt really relevant to much. A deterministic universe looks, feels, and acts to us exactly like a nondeterministic one would.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (12 children)

What if some parts of the universe are deterministic, and some others aren't? Or that is is deterministic sometimes, but sometimes it is not?

Then, would it mean that initiating a chain of deterministic events that eventually causes suffering makes me responsible for this suffering?

What if i choose to cut taxes because i think I'll have more money, but it causes a series of events that end up increasing organised crimes? What if it was always the deterministic result of that choice, but the choice itself was not deterministic and I could have chosen not to do it?

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I took it to mean fighting against a descent into nihilism.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 week ago (6 children)

I never understood the fight against nihilism, as if it's inherently bleak. I came to the conclusion that nothing truly matters a long time ago, but that doesn't keep me from feeling like stuff matters, and doing what matters to me. Subjective meaning can still drive you to pursue and live a good life even while you're aware that objective meaning doesn't exit. Happiness feels good, which is enough for me.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Occam's razor defeats Plato's cave. There's no reason to think that the world we experience would be just metaphysical shadows on the wall. The burden of proof is on Mickey's shoulders.

Oh yeah and Cogito Ergo Sum. So there is one bit of definitely provable knowledge.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago (7 children)

Occam's razor is a rule of thumb not an absolute rule of the universe.

If you go with Cogito Ergo Sum, I think that's the stance Mickey is taking. You only know for sure of your own consciousness, everything else could be a delusion of the senses. You know, like shadows on a cave wall or whatever.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The universe could just as well be made of only one type of matter. The fact that certain particles attract each other is miraculous in and of itself. It's what facilitates complex matter and ultimately life. It's also a funamental law upon which brains have evolved. It's everything but absurd.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I think the usage of the word absurd in this context entails the third definition of the word here: A search engine word definition for the word "absurd". The third entry relates to existential philosophy and the notion that human life and the universe lacks inherent order or meaning.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

Those old cartoons really didn't hold back, huh?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

Or, as I love to say: you feel what you feel, it's what you do with it that matters

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 week ago

Holy shit Mickey, what did you do to Pluto!?

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