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Realtek's $10 tiny 10GbE network adapter is coming to motherboards later this year
(www.tomshardware.com)
This is going to be a huge help for home video editors.
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but home Internet is still stuck at Gigabit speeds.... and only in some cases are they maybe letting you go to 2 Gb. Wasn't there that post floating around lemmy a while ago about how China can potentially give everyone like 5Gb for home or something? Can't find it now but swore it was here....
That depends on where you live. I could get 10 Gbit/s WAN if I wanted to pay the subscription for that but 500 Mbit/s is enough.
Also 10 Gbit/s is mainly useful for LAN. Like connecting to a NAS.
Yeah, Im excited about the cards but getting a 1GB switch with a 10g uplink was expensive... 10g switches are... a lot.
I don't disagree with that. There is almost no benefit to having residential Internet go beyond even 2Gb. Most people don't realize that or are not shown why and so immediately figure that a bigger number means better experience. I use a 10Mb LAN connection to my Giagabit router at home and the only time I really suffer is when downloading huge files but I end up doing so in the background anyway...
I use a 10Mb LAN connection to my Giagabit router
Is that a 10BASE-T connect over two pairs of twisted pair? But even then you'd naively expect Fast Ethernet 100 Mb/s at least. I'm curious what it's only 10, can you tell us?
I have so many questions about this too.. Commenting to come back later for the answer.
as if more than .005% of computer users will actually be able to see any difference whatsoever.
I am just wondering if it would be better to go straight to fiber instead of ethernet as most have fiber to the home anyway. That should help with future speed upgrades beyond 10Gbit as well.
Fiber is also more power efficient? Why not?
I don't think "most" have fiber to the home, first of all. Cable companies in the US do multigig speeds via fiber to a relay and coax cable to the home. Fiber is great when it's underground or in a data center and safe, but it is delicate and easy to break the cables so not a great home solution. Fiber terminations are difficult and more expensive. The power efficiency payoff on a 1m cable from your router to your pc is probably going to be measured decades, more if you factor in the higher cost of the cable.
You need more than10Gb/s at home? I mean we all know the 640Kb meme but I'm curious here :-)
I frequently transfer data over the LAN at a higher rate than my internet connection.
Kinda wish it was easier to test the connection speed between devices tbh, unless someone knows a good way of doing it but many devices are so locked down I am not sure how you would.
Even when doing that, the bottleneck is the storage write speed. you can have 1Tb internet connection and it wouldn’t matter unless you have enough users in a home.
Not all data transfer is sending stuff to storage, streaming your display live at a high bitrate for example never needs to go into storage.
Is more than 1Gbps needed for that? That seems insane, but I'm old and watch stuff in full HD so what do I know.
Low latency means low compression. Low compression means high bandwidth.
1080p60 NDI will be 200mbps. If you are doing 2160p60, that's 800mbps (which is about the limit I would run 1gbe at). Doesn't leave much overhead for anything else, and a burst of other traffic might cause packet drops or packet rejection due to exceeding the TTL.
2.5gbps would be enough.
But I see 2.5gbps and 5gbps as "stop-gaps". Data centers standardised on 10/40gbps for a while (before 25/100 and 100/400) - it's still really common tbh - so the 10gbps tech is cheap.
I don't see the point in investing in 2.5/5gbps
NVMEs are claiming sequential write speeds of several GBps (capital B as in byte). The article talks about 10Gbps (lowercase b as in bits), so 1.25GBps. Even with raw storage writes the NVME might not be the bottleneck in this scenario.
And then there's the fact that disk writes are buffered in RAM. These motherboards are not available yet so we're talking about future PC builds. It is safe to say that many of them will be used in systems with 32GB RAM. If you're idling/doing light activity while waiting for a download to finish you'll have most of your RAM free and you would be able to get 25-30GB before storage speed becomes a factor.
That is true, given everyone uses good quality nvmes, which is not always the case, but honestly, 1Gbps fiber is enough for a home with multiple users. Even if, assuming the storage is not the bottleneck, unless you need often very large lan transfers, should be more enough with 1Gbps.
Anyway, I guess i’m sidestepping the initial topic. bottom line: cool cheap tech for companies, not so much for home users.
edit: wording
We don't all have 1Gbps fiber though, but even without it I can still benefit from 1Gbps ethernei
An SFP+ single mode module alone costs ~20€ at least. Add to that a PCIe extension card and you're way over the cost of copper.
Add to that, that most homes have multiple devices that you want connected. So you need a fiber switch as well. 150usd will get you a mikrotik crs305, with 4 sfp+ ports. And you'll probably want a router, but perhaps you can offload that to your ISP, kinda like routing on a stick.
About damn time. We got a boost every few years from 10 to 100 to 1000. Then we just... Stopped. Stagnated. It's understandable why, for a good long time one gigabit was all anybody needed, 100 MByte/sec is pretty good even for a NAS.
Of course then fiber ISPs got in the game, now in a lot of places you can buy 7-8gbps as a consumer product. And even multi-gig, which was supposed to 'fix' this, really ended up being insufficient. You could make a salad argument that multi gig was a waste of time and we should have just started moving to 10 gig.
Unfortunately, 10 gig switches still carry a significant premium. But this will start to shake that up. Sooner the better.
100MB/s are frustrating for a NAS. SSDs have been common for a decade, and the old spinning rust storage in my NAS is still faster than the network can handle?
Even HDDs can max a 100mbit connection. UHD Blurray is something like 80-150mbit/a.
Ahhh. First world problems are always a great read
It's... a technology community.
My 25 mbps isp speeds make me sad.
Early 2000s say hello
IIRC I had like 1Mbps around early 2000 (like 2004 maybe), and the thing was that it was "always on", no need to beep boop bzrrr use the phone line (like blocking it).
Australian too?
i mourn the loss of full fibre NBN
every
damn
day
… fuck the liberals
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