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  • President Donald Trump on Friday said he is “recommending a straight 50% Tariff on the European Union” after complaining that trade negotiations have stalled.

  • The EU “has been very difficult to deal with,” Trump wrote. “Our discussions with them are going nowhere!”

The European Union, which was formed for the primary purpose of taking advantage of the United States on TRADE, has been very difficult to deal with. Their powerful Trade Barriers, Vat Taxes, ridiculous Corporate Penalties, Non-Monetary Trade Barriers, Monetary Manipulations, unfair and unjustified lawsuits against Americans Companies, and more, have led to a Trade Deficit with the U.S. of more than $250,000,000 a year, a number which is totally unacceptable. Our discussions with them are going nowhere! Therefore, I am recommending a straight 50% Tariff on the European Union, starting on June 1, 2025. There is no Tariff if the product is built or manufactured in the United States. Thank you for your attention to this matter!

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago

Oh, in Europe we have good math books for third-graders. Many pictures and drawings in it too. And not that many nasty equations.

We could send him one or two ...

[–] [email protected] 31 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The EU should use the Chinese method:

The US puts 50% The EU puts 50. The US puts 100 The EU puts 100 Trump says "I´m waiting for them to call me" The EU doesn´t call. Trump says 10%

Job done in 2 weeks.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

just up our prices. No need to shoot ourselves in the foot. You want a 50% tarriff? I will increase the prices I sell my stuff to you by 50% too. That effectively turns their 50% into 125%. If you do this for stuff they can only get from here then they'll quickly walk it back. Use their tarriffs against them, not do the same thing to our own citizens

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

You could do that by slapping export tariffs on things. It still harms whatever industry you do that to though.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

This isn't about forcing the EU to accept some unfavorable deal, it's about devaluing the dollar.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Do it. Do it. Do it. it'll just push Europe away.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

He still doesn't know what a tariff is.

Also, I appreciate that every picture I see of Trump, even on official news sources, is an unflattering one. They always make sure to catch him with his mouth looking like what it is, that being an asshole.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

Well, he doesn't know what a trade deficit is either, so he's got that going for him, which is nice.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago

He doesn't need to know. His supporters hear that corporations and other countries pay and they believe it, despite evidence to the contrary slapping them in their slack-jawed, dull-eyed faces.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago

Also, I appreciate that every picture I see of Trump, even on official news sources, is an unflattering one.

Err... that's Ursula von der Leyen

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Counting VAT as a trade deficit enabler is complete bullshit.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

They could just say they'll get rid of it and start a sales tax instead.

But honestly the whole thing is just an excuse anyway

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 weeks ago

Dude just wants to crater the US economy, specifically the stock market, and kill what credibility the US has thrived on since WW2. Can't help but feel Putin has a finger in this cause a weak US makes Russia look stronger.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 weeks ago

Just ignore him. He's proven multiple times he will cave.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

Trump is breaking all alliances. He wants Europe’s help on Iran and Israel and against China, but they won’t want to help if he’s attacking them. This is backfiring spectacularly.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago

He wants bribes

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago

Translation: punish them for not being nice to me.

[–] [email protected] 52 points 2 weeks ago

Christ on a cracker. We are not at war with anyone. Therefore every single one of these tariffs are illegal. He does not have the authority to be doing this shit and I am so fucking sick of it. Yes I am aware that the lapdog congress will do nothing to stop him. Yes I am still going to complain anyway.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

I have to pay them using my card & PIN number

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The fact that we the EU are still trying to negotiate with the US is pathetic. We should not be entertaining this clique.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Allies on paper, EU can't simply tell tramp to go fuck himself like China can, for now.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I mean europe just have to wait 4 years.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Hey people, looks like we have an optimist here! 😊

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Good point but why do they get to tell us to go fuck ourselves then? We are also their allies on paper.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Well, the alliance was not symmetric to start with, the US used to call the shots and the EU would follow if it wasn't a stupid decision or sit on its hands otherwise. russia's invasion and the US's passivity is challenging that.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

russia's invasion and the US's passivity is challenging that.

Passivity? As in the US should do more than use Ukraine as a proxy, but should get involved in a war with Russia to defend Ukraine?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

As a lemm.ee user, you should be perfectly aware that if Ukraine is anyone's proxy, then of Estonia: Ukraine is following Estonian doctrine on how to deal with Russia to a t.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

All I'm saying is that Ukraine finally made strikingly clear that in the current configuration Europe is the junior partner in NATO and that Europe needs to have its own means in the future to defend its own interests (during the cold war, those interests were always aligned, so it was never a problem). But once that happens, Europe won't remain the junior partner anymore.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago

Because someone needs to be the adult, and that person is never going to be Trump.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 2 weeks ago

I need to explain to people why this is so amazingly stupid:

You are literally giving Europe an excuse to put tariffs on American goods and services, which they want to anyway, to encourage domestic producers.

Also, you're making it easier for them to buy directly from south Korea, Japan and even China, especially since those countries can't sell as easily to the US.

For Europe this is an absolute win/win.

But honestly, this sounds like a way for Trump to put pressure on Europe to back off on Ukraine, as he probably thinks the EU is reliant on US LNG, which is kind of isn't really.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Oh look, more grifting from the grifter in chief. Turning our government into an outright kleptocracy.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Gee, wouldn't it be a surprise if a stock selloff by administration people had occurred just before this announcement? No one would expect that.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

Right before a federal holiday weekend, too? Hmmmm....

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