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Features for the note taking app detailed in this guide include:

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago

Thanks for sharing OP. If I could find a selfhostable Notepad++ I'd be in high cotton. It ticks all the boxes I need.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 hours ago

I love new ideas and optimism, but only your last point is the uniqueness.. and it's in parentheses??

Gotta step up the marketing game here

[–] [email protected] 4 points 12 hours ago
[–] [email protected] 8 points 13 hours ago

It took me far too long to figure out what note taking app this here is even talking about. Apparently it's a homemade app named Directus?

Obsidian charges for sync, but you can totally do your own syncing with other means.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 13 hours ago

Vim + vimwiki is what I use, with session saving plugin. That is all I need. For syncing, I use either git or syncthing.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (2 children)

I don't really get all the hate on the comments. Yes there are tons of note taking alternatives, and yet usually none ever works just perfectly for anybody. More choice is a good thing.

Yes it saves to a database, but it doesnt seems to be encrypted nor "proprietary" or "vendor lock-in" as the notes are, afterall, plain text and can be extracted from a database easily. Is it the best storage for text notes? not in my opinion, but that is not vendor lock-in.

My choice is silverbullet on web and Markor on Android, with Synchting in the back (yes, Synchting still works pretty fine on android thanks to the forked app).

[–] [email protected] 3 points 14 hours ago

I don't really get all the hate on the comments.

Agreed. "Oh no! Not an ETL!" I wish more applications were backed by MySQL, MariaDB, Mongo, etc. Give me the option of encryption at rest, and when it's time to change apps, I have granular control over everything.

On the other hand, the advantage of all the hate is everyone presenting their faves and providing their reasons. So ...net win for the audience?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

What is this SyncThing fork? Is it on F-Droid or something? I feel like I'm taking crazy pills because everyone praises SyncThing but it straight up does not work. I can get it to sync once, then the next day it will just not connect at all (Android 15 P9Pro/CachyOS)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

The original android app has been discontinued by the dev for reasons. Another dev picked it up and keep publishing SyncThing fork on FDROID, at least, i get it from fdroid...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 12 hours ago

Ok awesome, thank you. I'll try it out. I was not aware of the discrepancy with the Play Store version

[–] [email protected] 1 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

I started using syncthing after reading all that praise on lemmy. It deserves all the praise it can get, it's easy to setup and works perfectly.

what "crazy pills" are you taking?

syncthing-fork ☞ https://f-droid.org/packages/com.github.catfriend1.syncthingandroid

[–] [email protected] 1 points 12 hours ago

what "crazy pills" are you taking?

  1. Hear people praise SyncThing
  2. Open the Play Store by depressing the tip of my finger on its icon
  3. Search "SyncThing"
  4. Click on first result
  5. Press "Install"
  6. It doesn't work
[–] [email protected] 3 points 16 hours ago

Looks like https://docs.numerique.gouv.fr/home/ except that one is backed by two governments.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 16 hours ago (3 children)

I'll take Joplin instead! It's FOSS!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 hours ago

I tried Joplin for a while but dropped it, too simple. Also tried Trilum, which I liked more but it's still a very young project.

Eventually, my Obsidian vault will go there, but not just yet.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

When i tried Joplin i was put off by a few issues:

  • pretty sluggish UI on all platforms
  • not plain markdown: all your files have .md extension but the content is definitely more JSON than MD :)
  • synch is cumbersome unless you use sychthing or similar.

It was over 1 year ago,so.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 15 hours ago

Which is why I prefer Silberbullet

[–] [email protected] 1 points 16 hours ago

Yes, Joplin achieves everything this proposal does and more.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 17 hours ago

Man there's a lot of the last note app you'll ever need!

[–] [email protected] 24 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

Obsidian ticks all of these boxes and syncthing to sync notes is a 5 minute setup.

Plus it stores things in plaintext instead of a database format that vendor locks you in (despite the claim of "no vendor lock in")

Ooooo yay another half-baked AI shoved into everything whatever possible.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 hours ago

Man, you guys REALLY do not like AI here. lol Yeah, it's a novelty for the average consumer. Sure, corporations try to wedge AI into everything, like an AI Rice Cooker. But we have to go there to figure out what it's core usefulness is. Think of when corps were hit by the trendy cloud thing. They pushed entire operations to the cloud. Then we figured out that what can be run in the cloud, might not ought be in the cloud. So, after a while, we regrouped, and no one even gives 'the cloud' much thought anymore...it's not special or trendy anymore.

It's like every trendy technological gizmo that supposed to make your life sooo much easier. These are selling points for people who really don't understand the real potential, and just want to make faceswaps, and bizarre pictures, or maybe music. I use AI when I'm mastering music tracks because I'm clinically deaf and some frequencies I just can't hear. Works very well.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Obsidian's only downside is that it's closed source, but this is a big downside for some people.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 hours ago

Yep and can be easily firewalled to mitigate trust

[–] [email protected] 2 points 17 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 13 points 17 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 16 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 11 points 16 hours ago

I think you accidentally dropped your mic.

[–] [email protected] 50 points 17 hours ago (3 children)

Not saved as Markdown files, but in a database. I prefer editing my own files when I need to. I prefer Silverbullet.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

I already keep notes in markdown format but didn't know of Silverbullet.

I reject Obsidian and Joplin because they're based on electron but it looks like it's not the case for Silverbullet. Don't know if these even support markdown tbh.

I'll need to look into it further, looks really nice!

[–] [email protected] 11 points 17 hours ago

Yeah, especially for text files. Hard no.

Databases have their uses, but the trade off between obfuscating the data and making it harder for users to access has to be far more compelling. LogSeq is a really good example that you can do relatively complex note organization with cross references and tree structure without resorting to a database. Using a DB for something like this is user-hostile, smells of vendor lock-in, and seems lazy.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 17 hours ago

And they claim "zero vendor lock-in".

Exporting your content from whatever weird format they're using in the DB isn't exactly making the switch easy.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Are there not already about a zillion of these?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 14 hours ago

Yes. Enjoy 30 minutes of unhinged (but logical and highly enjoyable) ranting about this, if you care to:

https://youtu.be/XRpHIa-2XCE