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[–] [email protected] 103 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

I am so sick of the word conservative. It's not conservative, it's fucking regressive. It's back sliding our society into a world that never really existed in the first place.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

"Conservative" just means "extreme far-right" now.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago

That’s only if you let it

To me it’s still what Americans consider left

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 weeks ago

I say this all the time and somehow people just can't see it. Who cares what they call themselves. Its what they do and what they want that describes them.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

It’s not conservative, it’s fucking regressive.

I mean, Liberals aren't particularly liberal and far too many of the Progressives are barely progressive. Libertarians don't seem that interested in liberty. Centrists can't find the center. Plutocrats are immolating their capital. The Meritocrats are unqualified. The Technocrats are incompetent. Only the Fascists seem intent on delivering results consistent with their brand.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I don't disagree. The world liberal is wasted on the Democratic party. They're not liberal. They're just the only valid opposition to the Nazis. Even if their policies are conservative.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 weeks ago

They’re just the only valid opposition to the Nazis.

I think you're asking "opposition" to do more heavy lifting than it can bear in that sentence.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Love how even in this future people still park on the fuckin sidewalks.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

How could you ban political speech without some kind of Act under the guise of keeping Kids Safe Online?

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[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I think about the Soviet Union and communism and whatnot. I think your concept of liberal and conservative really set in a modern period. So now it means something totally different than what it used to mean. Liberals are not liberals, and conservatives are not conservatives, in the modern era in America. Like you might not agree with a European conservative, but they're not absolutely horrible, unlike the ultra far right in Europe as well as here in America. Now that might all change due to how much the establishment turns up the volume and the mass hysteria kicks in though. I'm coming from a sociological point of head space, mindset. In regards to America's liberal and conservative i see both as reactionary. America is one of the most propagandized populations in the world. We're like a mixture of North Korea and Disneyland without your wallet. An open-air prison where everybody's gaslighting the fuck out of you. The show must go on, remember to smile. to elaborate further, I think maybe it's always been like this and it just has to do with the bread getting short and the rise of right-wing populism. I think all of this lives on like a spectrum. I just think of Mass hysteria. The Masters know how to fuck with our heads. Like I'm gonna hide underneath my fucking desk to keep myself safe from a nuclear bomb. Fucking ridiculous.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

This reminds me of a conversation I had with my mom about Trump taking away Social Security. She said it was impossible and we wouldn’t let him do it. And I told her, not only would we let him do it, but after the media gets finished, we’d be browbeating those that complained about it ending. It’s ridiculous how Americans have adapted to tolerating the most abhorrent shit. Like, healthcare, minimum wage, “right to work “ states, etc.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

state sponsored censorship is bad

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

I just look fondly back on the times when there was a slightly higher barrier-to-entry to those that wanted to access and use the internet.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago

August 1993?

[–] [email protected] -2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

Ah yes, the halcyon days when only upper-middle class techbros had access to such beacons of internet liberalism as 4chan and Albino Blacksheep.

Bring back Powerline Blog! Bring back deeply homophobic Starcraft voice chats! Bring back spending 30,000 bitcoins on a pizza! I miss the days of three horny Harvard kids putting together an online Hot-or-Not image ranking of their female peers. I miss Googling "Waffles" and getting John Kerry's campaign website. I miss downloading an .mp3 of someone reading erotica in a Daffy Duck voice on Napster! You know, when the internet was normal and sophisticated and good.

Retvrn To Tradition!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago

Yep, still sounds better than our current enshittification.

I mean at least there wasn't a subscription for literally everything back then.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

You say that like that isn’t better

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

This makes me wonder how many "teenage edgelords" that bought into "the manosphere" would've been able to go to such an extreme if they'd been forced to access every website through a shared family computer, in a room that others frequent, the way many Millennials had to do at their age.

Relatively-guaranteed privacy only happened on rare occasions (I came from a large household), and I had to share the one computer with all of my siblings. My parents weren't the type to go out of their way to monitor my internet activity, but just knowing they or my siblings could appear at any time, look over my shoulder, and ask me what I was looking at, made me think very carefully about what I put on that screen.

We wouldn't have been able to entrench ourselves 24/7 in toxic muck the way people can today.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago

I hadn't thought about it until reading your comment here but I accidentally raised my GenZ kids this way. If I hadn't done this I never would have seen my eldest heading down the misogynist edgelord path and intervened.

The only decent computer in the house was in the living room, and they had clunky retired elementary school computers in their rooms running Linux and Open Office so they could work on homework (no internet, USB drive to save homework and send from family computer). It wasn't because I sought to keep them from using the internet privately, it was because we couldn't really afford better.

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