As much as I love things like satire, subtext, subtlety, allegory and allusion I am beginning to feel that their use in anything meant to be remotely popular is problematic and this sort of reinforces that. It seems like you need the most overt ham fisted cudgel over the head plots with wholly unlikeable, physically unattractive people as the baddies and beautiful dumb as rocks people as the "heroes" to spout unambiguous cliche one liners in order for the thing to not be grossly misunderstood by the average American. Like Team America was just straight taken unironically as a "we should really do that" blueprint instead of a criticism-by-edgelords satire. No need for parody, we already live in one. SMH.
this post was submitted on 19 May 2025
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imagine having a frame of reference so small that you consider this film one of the BEST of all time. pitiful
it’s not even good. in fact, it’s actively bad
I suspect half the time when people (particularly fascists) have media takes this bad they're taking the piss a little. They know it's a BS take but their demonstrating their fascist anti-materialism by showing they have no care for reality and just write their own version of it.
American History X taught me an important things about society: that you should never give Nazis imagery that could be even vaguely interpreted as cool.
Movies for the american market should have a hardcoded subtitle "THIS MAN IS NOT A ROLE MODEL HE IS THE BAD GUY AND NOT TO BE EMULATED".
Nah, they'll still use out of context clips. The fash needs to be literally, and liberally, smeared with big stinky turds at all times.
Nazis love that movie, not shocking some of them would think it's practically a documentary.
They made the main character too hot, thats why. Similar to Starship trooper.
CHUDs are mentally high schoolers lmao.
CHUDs are mentally on the same level as Ted Bundy’s fangirls. They think being ontologically evil is the sexiest thing ever.
Well its more of the aesthetic, in both movies the nazi is hunky masc acting white dude. Whatever the plot of theme is (remember nazis consider(ed) meta-narratives and subsurface writing to be removed) less relevant.
So the whole omg the right wing loves x or y despite it being a based leftist message is a pointless waste of time, they are going to co-opt regardless of your protest or not.
Plus he goes to prison for doing the thing that all suburboid crackers dream of - stopping a theft on their property with excessive violence
They do? Wasn't the whole point of that movie not to be a Nazi?
The movie spends the first two thirds building up Ed Norton to be some kind of badass neonazi supersoldier, only for him to have a near-death experience product of his hate and his brother die for the same hate he instilled in them. Neonazis don't care for the human aspect of the story or his redemption (as half-assed and tenuous as it was), they only care about "Ed Norton was a badass neonazi in this film til he became a pussy"
Wild. I actually saw that movie as a teenager and it did actually have an impact on me but the complete opposite. The lesson I took from it was be careful who you hang out with. If you choose wrong enough your life can take a scary turn.
There's the difference between you and the average neonazi. You engaged with the text and got a message from it, while a neonazi either can't or willingly won't look any deeper than the surface appearance of superiority and masculinity in any piece of media. It's either flattering or indicative of the oversized influence/power the "undesirables" have.
No the whole point is that Nazis are actually right. And even if they're wrong, it's on minorities to educate white supremacists.
I realize now, after 30 something years of life, that I’m incredibly privileged to have a baseline level of education that prevents me from saying shit like this about a major motion picture seen by hundreds of millions over decades.
And these people run the planet.
bro watches Jingle all the Way wondering why arnold doesnt just kill the neighbor trying to fuck his wife since he’s a robot from the future
'Come with me if you want to gift'
Who is your daddy and put the cookie down!
Because he knows that's not the mission and as a robot he doesn't have any feelings about it anyway.