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Finland to criminalise Holocaust denial (yle.fi)

submitted 1 week ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Let's say better late than never.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

There are about 2,500 Sudanese immigrants in Finland. Why not have a law criminalizing the Darfur genocide too? Or better yet, how about a law against denying any genocide in the furtherance of hate speech?

Unfortunately, I think I know the answer to these questions. I suspect it's related to the fact that Finland does not recognize the Palestinian state, unlike their neighbors in Norway, Sweden, and Iceland. A law criminalizing the denial of any genocide in the furtherance of hate speech would end up legally including the genocide in Palestine as soon as a case lands in a Finnish court. At that point, it would be really hard to defend their one-sided support of Israel, and lack of Palestinian state recognition.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago

I seriously believe that in an adult society you can set one or two historically damaging things aside from “freedom of speech.” I believe it was Trevor Noah who explained that when black people took back South Africa from its apartheid masters, they didn’t burn those people at the stake or prosecute them out of existence or even steal all their property. They just said you won’t be ruling this country like that anymore OH and that ONE WORD… you don’t get to say that ONE WORD ever again.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago

Will they punish communism glorification as well? I'm thinking anything nazi is shit but most of the people here are shitty tankies so Hitler bad Stalin good yet both were monsters... different types but monsters and no one criminalizes the glorification of Stalinism.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago

This is coming from a currently far-right + hard capitalist government so I'm wary of how truthful this news is

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago

Yeah they won't use this to evil ends....

Fuck israel

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 days ago

you will apply this law with the same rigour to every genocide right? right?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Is this tacked on with a bunch of other laws related to criticism of Zionism also being against the law?

Tons of laws Israel is trying to get passed in western countries to associate anti Zionism with Antisemitism.

I doubt this is the only part of the law.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago

No this law only outlaws denying recognized genocides by the international court and in a hateful way.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 days ago

Based! Fuck Nazis

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago

I must be mistaken. I thought the EU had made it illegal. Finland is part of the EU last I checked.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

More solutions: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Genocide_denial&oldid=1288600616#Prevention

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

It's too bad we can't make being a fucking idiot illegal, but then there wouldn't be anywhere near enough prisons.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Curb your fascism.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Excuse me? My definition of idiot includes fascists. Curb your kneejerk.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Ok, curb your enthusiasm for fascism.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago

Ok troll.

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