Sounds like he's in a very strong bargaining position at least
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there is a reason they say 'safety regulations are written in blood'....
this won't change until there is a major disaster, and even then, there is no reason to think it will make any difference to this current dumpster fire of an administration....
(....not to disparage dumpster fires, as they at the very least provide heat and light)
Part of me is wondering if they're purposely allowing a disaster to occur so they can push through some bullshit AI solution and layoff all existing human ATC
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I posted this on another thread, but thought it was worth sharing here as well.
Heads up this is about to get worse. Republicans recently voted to cut retirement funding for air traffic controllers. By cutting the Federal Employees Retirement System (FERS) for workers retiring before 62 (all Air Traffic Controllers are required to retire at 56 and are eligible to retire at 50), this is completely fucking over ATCs who continue working by changing their retirement math.
An open secret with ATCs is that they have numerous medical qualifications that they have to maintain to keep working. For example, if they see a doctor about sleep apnea, depression, alcoholism, etc they lose their medical qualification and are forced to take a medical retirement.
So what happens if you're an ATC in your 40s and the government says "hey you can keep working for the next 10 years and retire without this FERS supplement... Or you can tell your doctor that you snore at night and take an immediate medical retirement right now and get paid more in retirement"?
TLDR; We're about to have a shit load of Air Traffic Controllers taking medical retirements and these staffing problems are going to explode.
they'll probably (unwisely) have AI take over. because nothing bad ever happens with AI..
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Give them a raise! Fire everybody who let and allowed this to happen.
Could you imagine. For three straight hours, having thousands of lives in your hands knowing full well one mistake could send hundreds of them to their deaths. Bruh. Air traffic controllers need to strike.
and apparently the stress level and PTSD without actual incidents is very high. can't imagine being responsible for that many lives and probably not getting paid nearly enough.
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They should go on strike but be more organized, unlike the Reagan era
I don't know the full details, but I'm not sure how being more organized in the Reagan era would have helped. If the boss is willing to fire everyone, then a strike doesn't matter anymore.
I guess you could do more to try to prevent scabs from coming in? It's already incredibly difficult to train up the scabs in this particular niche, and they were willing to go that route, anyway.
They're understaffed as fuck. The scabs would be completely unqualified and people will die. Not a good look for those striking but at this point it sounds like every day without a crash is a miracle. I completely support a strike.
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What if he needs to take a dump?
Was he not wearing socks?
Not after the first hour or so.
That controller should have walked off and notified media no flights should be handled by Newark until they get their shit together.
This type of heroics can kill people.
Yeah. Or the ATC could just tell all incoming planes to divert to another airport because it is “not safe to land”.
It would cause chaos and keep everyone a bit safer.
If there is only one ATC at the helm, precisely ZERO flights should come or go.
Usually, it's a chain of errors/failures that leads to accidents, after the many years of dissecting and trying to prevent air disasters.
2002 Uberlingen collision is one such case where the reliance on a sole air traffic controller was part of that chain. And that was with one controller instead of the desired two. 50% headcount. Here it's 1 or 2 instead of 14-15? That's 7-14% headcount.
We know overworking people and understaffing introduce substantial risk to managing, assisting, and responding to flights. Even supposing this poor soul could adequately manage the workload by themselves, the introduction of a single problem could throw all of it off.
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