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[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

Linux is very user friendly. Windows 11 with debloat is also a good option. Not worth sticking to windows if they won't be using any microsoft specific development tools like visual studio or be playing heavy games. A casual gamer won't be troubled on Linux.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I think what many people really need to feel confident switching to linux is an expert who is willing to guide them through it and offer support.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago

I'm actively trying to do that, and it's not working. All my normie friends are either ignoring the problem or planning on buying new pcs with win11

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago

I mean, it is very "broad strokes" but correct. Ultimately though I don't think their goal is to get people to just do it themselves. It seems like their bigger goal is connecting people in the community to people that want to make the switch to help smooth out the transition.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago

Good luck, you're going to need it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

10 is perfectly great, 7 was not bad at all.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

10 is perfectly great

Nope.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

I kinda wish I had the time and knowledge to volunteer at my local commu center and do a "Save your old computer from the Dump!" Free upgrade! ~to~ ~Linux~" drive.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago

Doing it free means they won't take care of it or care. Don't dump that on yourself.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I considered it, but I think the overwhelming, unexpected workload would be migrating data, training users, and working with them through migration to FOSS applications from Office and the like.

It’s definitely not just going to be “installed Linux on your computer, have a great day!”

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Yeah I'd start with Ubuntu or mint. Standard apps like libreoffice scripted install and a desktop link to a YouTube learning series.

Not covering data. Clean wipe only. Hence the "save it from the dump" line.

I'd have the center drop off units with stickers to track owners and do the needful. No interaction to end users.

Follow up could be Linux training workshops in a classroom setting.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

I’ve been through this before. If you simply don’t care for the user’s data, most of them will be angry afterward. It’ll hurt the cause.

I’ll add an anecdote that I hope gives everyone some hope though. I did migrate an elderly couple to Ubuntu years ago, and they actually really liked it. I think they found it simpler and faster than windows on their old laptop.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Remember when windows 10 was supposed to be the last version of windows? 🤣

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, if the MS store and UWP apps worked out for Microsoft (they didn't lol).

Now win11 is "okay, now this really will be last version of windows, because you can't refuse installing our crap."

[–] [email protected] 16 points 5 days ago (1 children)

if the MS store and UWP apps worked out for Microsoft

Interestingly, that's exactly what prompted Valve to invest heavily into Linux compatibility. They saw a future where Windows became an iPhone-like OS where most users only obtained apps and games via Microsoft's store, and they absolutely did not like that idea.

That future never came, but later on the project would pay dividends by allowing the Steam Deck to exist.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Yep, and I'd argue thats one of the most fruitful things to come out of MS's blunders. It incentivized the other stakeholders to get win32/64 compatibility efforts into high gear for linux, and I couldn't be happier with what we ended up with today (on the linux side ofc)

Edit: Also, I mentioned the MS store and UWP because that was the reason behind that infamous quote - the team wanted to motivate developers to get on board with the platform, and announcing 10 as the last version of Windows was part of that campaign.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 5 days ago (1 children)

It is the last - that a lot of us here will ever use willingly

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 days ago

Switched from W10 to EndeavourOS about two weeks ago. Happy so far. The full-screen W11 ads/W10 deprecation warnings were what pushed me over the edge.

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