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[–] [email protected] 56 points 3 days ago (6 children)

Every time I see these posts: The happiest countries in the world are consistently: The Nordic countries are often considered happy due to high levels of social trust, strong welfare systems, and low income inequality, which contribute to a sense of security and well-being among their citizens. Additionally, their effective governance and access to quality public services play a significant role in enhancing overall life satisfaction. These governments are working for the people, not oligarchs.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 3 days ago

My mother was deserted by our father in the 60s. She had 4 children. She found a rental house. Our landlords became like family. She struggled, but always paid the rent, and our house was always well looked after. As an adult, I suspect the couple that owned the property never raised the rent. I don’t know that for sure as I didn’t have the opportunity to ask my Mom before she died. I will say that all 4 children were educated and are leading productive lives. Thank you to the kindness and humanity of that couple that were our landlords ❤️. You made such a difference in my Mother’s, and her 4 children’s lives.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I don't get why u just blame landlords.
You know what other countries are doing? Building multilevel longterm concrete compact apartment complexes.

What does US do? Nothing.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago (5 children)

We dont need compact apartment complexes, we have plenty of houses being hoarded by companies and landlords so they arent on the market and the few that are can have artificially high prices. There are "Cash for your house now!" signs everywhere where I live plus they keep mailing us too, and those are usually either landlords or house-flippers.

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 3 days ago (6 children)

Is landlord a "job" where you live?

I think every single person I know who owns a house/flat and rents to someone has of course a regular job where he works at. Wouldn't be financially viable in any form otherwise (and it shouldn't be).

[–] [email protected] 43 points 3 days ago (1 children)

There are some people who own a bunch of properties and their job is maintaining them and dealing with the paperwork. And then there are some people who passively collect income and have a management company do that with no real connection to the place...

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago

Sell your properties, retire to the Caymans

[–] [email protected] 39 points 4 days ago (3 children)

"How will I pay my bills"

(Democratic) Socialism, UBI, and fair wages.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 days ago (3 children)

it's insane how deep propaganda has drilled into the heads of people where you have to specify the socialism is democratic

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago

New to lemmy?

[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 days ago (1 children)

To be fair, there are a lot of tankies advocating for the non-democratic type.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (5 children)

I mean, you can go one further and establish public utilities that ration resources per capita instead of charging a vig on top of the production cost.

Why do I need UBI and wages if I can just claim a vacant apartment and be guaranteed power/telecom, of which their are millions nationally?

We could divert the tens of billions (converted to energy/man hours) we're throwing away on AI subsidies and everyone can live a comfortable middle class life free of charge.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Yes but yokels in the flyover states will say no, so you're not allowed to do this.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

You give the yokels far too little credit. Quite a few of them are convinced it is the liberals who want to means test away their quality of life and expose them to the predation of foreign markets.

And they're often right. DLC liberals were perfectly fine with Midwestern deindustrialized, education privatization, military expansion, and corrosive financialization. The problem is that they're boxed in, with nowhere to go. Conservatives ensconced them in a media monopoly, screaming a partial truth - that liberal business interests have fully compromised their wing of government. That's made selling "we're all you've got" an incredibly powerful message on the right. Even as the Congressional paymasters tip both parties generously.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago

But think of the market!

[–] [email protected] 27 points 4 days ago (7 children)

A while ago my wife and I were debating on renting our home out and buying a different one. Just to break even on the house expenses it wasn't worth it.

Maybe I am wrong, but I don't understand how landlords make a lot of money unless they don't fix the house ever.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago

you make money if you don't have a mortgage.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 days ago

I was able to refinance my home at 2.8% during COVID. Now I'm paying less than $2k for a 2200 sqft home. I've got neighbors who are paying $4-6k for equivalent housing.

My mom, who bought her home in the 90s, has the mortgage fully paid off and only owes real estate taxes (around $12k annually) on a 5000 sqft property.

A lot of landlords simply inherited their homes or had enough credit to buy cheap units during the dips.

They also do a shit job of maintenance. But it can't be overstated how much of this property is either owned on extremely low interest credit or fully paid off.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 days ago

My landlord makes 48k a year off where I'm living. I can easily see how he's making money.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 4 days ago

I think the idea is that even if you only break even after mortgage and expenses, you gain equity in the house and eventually own the house which you then have at your disposal. You can continue to rent it out without the expense of the mortgage, or sell it and cash in.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The landlord I know that makes a shit ton of money inherited the homes from their parents.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 days ago

Yeah this is it, the ones who aren’t paying a mortgage on the house they’re renting out. That or corporate landlords.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 days ago

Get a real job idiot.

[–] [email protected] 78 points 4 days ago (1 children)

One landlord: “How will I pay my bills?”

Their multitude of tenants and their families: “How will WE pay our bills?!”

[–] [email protected] 54 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Landlord: "(dead serious) That's not my problem!"

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago

I know some landlords that acknowledge it is their problem, tenants dying or failing to pay means more paperwork and needing to find a new tenant, but they don't really offer good solutions.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Always remember that "the market" is just a signal to the landlord that they could get more if the property were on the market today. It's still their choice to squeeze you to take advantage of that. "It's the market" is code for "because I can".

Also they know that people don't want to move every year or two, so they can absolutely raise the rent above market level without you wanting to leave yet. This has the effect of pushing the market higher. The switching cost is very high, so it's in their favour that way too.

A landlord I knew about through a friend said they never raised the rent as long as their property is being paid off, because they would rather have it occupied and being paid than the tenants leave and the place sit empty.

Not to say that's a good landlord by any means, but there is a choice. The market isn't a mandate.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 days ago

Peter Parker: "you'll get your rent when you fix the damn DOOR!"

[–] [email protected] 45 points 4 days ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 21 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Private property yes, personal property no

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago (2 children)

This is so obvious I don't understand why it needs highlighting. Nobody here is suggesting you cannot have stuff.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 4 days ago (4 children)

The way i distinguish:

property in that you have a piece of paper saying something is yours and you can prevent people from using that thing or extract value from it, while not using it yourself. That’s theft.

But possession, ie. having things that you use, a house you live in etc. that’s not theft unless other circumstances that lead to the possession are theft.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago (2 children)

cars have paper attached to them, should people be forced to use cars to keep them?

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[–] [email protected] -2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

So you can never leave your house because as soon as you do you stop extracting value from it yet are preventing others from doing so themselves. So no one should be allowed homes or anything personal. As you can’t always be using something your entire life.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago (4 children)

You're making up a rule that isn't a part of the definition of personal property.

Your home is still the place you live at even if you're not currently in it. You address doesn't change the moment you step out of your house does it? You use it by it being your place of residence, and that happens at all times.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago

That's exactly what the comment you are replying to said.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 days ago (1 children)

We're on the same page then.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago

It's all about terminology. I like the concept of usofruct where your right to own something is bound to either use it directly or collect its fruits (in a literal or figurative sense). So a landlord wouldn't own a house but the people living there would. This has it's roots in Roman law where ownership had three aspects: usus, fructus and abusus (misuse, destroy, ...)

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 days ago

They're the foundation of society, I say!

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