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One of the best things I read was an 1889 essay by Andrew Carnegie called The Gospel of Wealth. It makes the case that the wealthy have a responsibility to return their resources to society, a radical idea at the time that laid the groundwork for philanthropy as we know it today.

In the essay’s most famous line, Carnegie argues that “the man who dies thus rich dies disgraced.” I have spent a lot of time thinking about that quote lately. People will say a lot of things about me when I die, but I am determined that "he died rich" will not be one of them.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago
[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago

There was this article about Bill Gates getting his most career-making deal by (badly) cloning the software of a competitor. A true genius is above the common law of peasants.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 days ago (1 children)

This means Bill Gates gets to dictate where society goes instead of society.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 days ago

Oh, hey, we're up to the Enlightened Monarchs phase of the Enlightenment of the 18th century.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago (1 children)

maybe he can buy my bandcamp albums 🥹

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 days ago

He learned his lesson in 95 when shipping wezzer with PCs

[–] [email protected] 22 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

I‘ve said it before and I‘ll say it again: Gates is not a saint, but there is clearly a difference between him and fucks like Thiel, Sacks or the Koch family who would never consider donating any of their money to research ways to eradicate Malaria or fund education programs for women.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 6 days ago (1 children)

He's donating through his charity to avoid taxes. He will be known as a man that died rich. He has failed, he'll remembered for Microsoft and hanging with Jeffrey epstein to get a Nobel peace price.

Prove me wrong Billy boy.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago

He's not trying to be seen as "not dying rich", that's the author's interpretation alone.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 6 days ago (1 children)

How nice, live as the 0.0000001% that owns the world and make up most of the big evils in the world from the age of 34 to the age of 70 and then from 70 to 90 transition to the top 0.0001% and "not die rich"

A real sacrifice, what a philanthropist, brave.

I'm just here being a top 25% fully aware of my privilege for being born in a rich country and working in a well paying job, and I still donate more then him in terms of percentage of my net worth. (Bill gates donates about 0.8-1.6% of his net worth annually, I donate about 5-10% annually) and I truly believe that no one should be a billionaire.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Me, bottom 10%, making coffee for a paycheck and scavenging my new pair of pants from a dumpster: Yeah, man, you said it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Me, bottom 10%

bottom 10% of mankind are most likely starving and homeless, definitely not on lemmy

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Assuming they meant in their country, and that their country is USA, bottom 10% as of 2023 was $15-18K. https://dqydj.com/2023-income-percentile-calculator/

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago

bottom 10% as of 2023 was $15-18K

most likely starving and homeless

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago

Way too late to matter you coward

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

I'll believe it when it happens, until then all I hear are promises that could be broken.
Words alone are meaningless.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 week ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

but I am determined that “he died rich” will not be one of them.

Bill Gates has a net worth of ~$168 billion. Even if this isn't just PR intended to launder his image, even if he does in fact give away 99% of that, it will still leave him with $1.68 billion dollars. Even if he ups that to 99.99% that'll still leave him with $16.8 million, which is still rich by anyone's measure. Bill Gates' idea of 'not dying rich' is radically different than yours or mine; he was never not going to die rich.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 days ago (1 children)

That’s true, but to be fair, if he pulls it off it will be one hell of an example to set.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

If your standard for 'a good example' is being a bit more creative with his tax-dodging PR stunts than other billionaires, that's a pretty low bar. A better example to set would be to not exploit people to accumulate wealth in the first place. It takes a whole lot of people like you and me staying poor to make Bill Gates that rich.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

A better example to set would be to not exploit people to accumulate wealth in the first place.

I do that everyday. Everyone feel free to thank me.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

No one gets thanks for being a decent human being, it's sort of the standard that everyone is expected to hold to.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I would totally exploit people if I actually got the opportunity to do so, it's just no one will let me do it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago

Then you are not a decent human being? :P

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

That’s true. I just appreciate that he seems to do a bit more than Musk to at least keep the appearance of giving back. This still doesn’t get him off the guillotine list.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago

I don't appreciate that one oligarch is better at lying to us than another one, that kinda makes it worse in my mind. Instead of telling ourselves comforting stories about how generous these societal leeches are we should be telling ourselves stories about how much better everyone else's lives could be if they didn't exist.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Carnegie was the smartest of the Robber Barons. He knew what would eventually happen if he didn't throw the peasants a bone.

He didn't want a date with Madame Guillotine. And some of the other Robber Barons realized his motive, and the dumber ones just saw it as a competition. Most of them followed his example.

Cuban is trying to use this strategy today with his "Discount Pharmaceutical" thing. It's not enough.

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